Problem editing smart objects in CC

Not sure what I'm doing differently. But I use to copy over a layer into a file. as a smart object, transform it. Then if I needed to replace the image. I would double click and the contents would open as a .psb file. I could then replace the image and save it and it was updated in the main comp file.
Now, if I double click I just get Camera Raw?
If I choice edit SO same thing.
Replace content lets me choose another file, but I don't have the open .psb which I could work on before saving it back.
What am I doing wrong now to not get the .psb to open and edit?
Thanks
Maxi

Sound like what was mentioned above: you dragged a RAW file or one that was at somepoint edited in ACR into your document. If you open a jpg or other file type in ACR, it will continue to open in ACR, so this might be your problem if it's not a RAW file. You can check to see if it was edited in ACR in Bridge. There will be some icons below the thumbnail showing that it's been cropped and adjusted in ACR. If the files you're trying to drag in aren't RAW or have been edited in ACR, this sounds like a bug.

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I’ve been monitoring CS3’s behaviour for the past couple of months and I’ve tried to summarize my observations in a table (see attachment). As you can see, jpegs handling inside smart objects is far from uniform, given the different jpeg-opening possibilities and the interference of different “prefer ACR for jpegs” settings.
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I hope the table is rather self-explaining. Basically I combined different opening methods with different “prefer ACR 4 jpegs” settings.
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Image 2: Smart Object Scaled to 400%, rasterized and then scaled back to original size (yum yum, like it used to be without up-rasterize-down-scaling)

That does not resolve the anti-aliasing issue in CS6 - it still looks rather bad.
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I explain more about this issue here: http://forums.adobe.com/message/6002543#6002543
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