Problem in Tax Depreciation Report
Dear all,
We are implementing Asset accounting for Tata capital. For tax depreciation area we maintained the setting for GL posting as(0= No values are posted in General Ledger). We had created the respecting depreciation keys and assigned in the asset master. The problem is, when i am running report of tax depreciation using transaction code J1IQ, it is not showing any data. It is displaying empty list.
Please guide us further, if any settings needs to be done
Thanks and Regards
L. Priyadarshini
Dear Priyadarshini,
Creating depreication keys and assigning in master may not serve your purpose.
Are you aware of the Asset Block concept in IT Act?
The depreciation in IT Act is calculated based on the total value of assets falling under one group, which is called "Gross Block" .
Eg:- Computers & Softwares comes under 1 block, so you need to create 1 group asset for every block in IT Act.
T-Code AS21, here you create 1 asset for every block in IT Act and maintain the depreciation keys for it, also enter the gross value and accumulated depreication in this for the entire block.
Now, this group asset number needs to be specified in every asset which you are creating in AS91,just double click on the depreciation area 15 (for IT Act) in the asset master you will get an entry screen where you have to specify the group asset number.
I think the report J1IQ is not used anymore.
Instead of that try giving the group asset number created for IT act, in AW01N or any other asset report for getting the values of Gross Block and Accum Dep as per IT Act.
Assign points if found useful.
Thanks & Regards
Sanjay Marathe
Edited by: Sanjay Marathe on Apr 29, 2008 12:51 PM
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Edited by: manucs on Dec 29, 2011 10:12 AM -
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Edited by: manucs on Dec 29, 2011 10:12 AM -
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RajivPlease add standard depreciation area "10" Federal Tax ACRS/MACRS. In OADB, the GL posting indicator should be set to "0".
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If you want to adhere Indian IT laws then follow the below mentioned steps:
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Cheers -
Hi,
You all might be aware To Evaluate the Income Tax Depreciation in Asset Accounting we have got 2 options:-
1. By Adopting Addittional Depreciation Area (Depreciation Area 15 (Depreciation as per Income Tax
Act 1961)
But the problem that I am facing is we have to give 2 Dep Key one for Book Dep & the other for Income Tax Depreciation and I have defaulted the dep keys in Asset Classes but when I am creating the Asset Master the dep key that is inputted for Book Depreciation is automatically copied to I.T Dep Area which is incorrect.
I have activated the Dep keys.
2. Secondly we can use Group Assets to derive I.T Depreciation I have done the necessary settings in OAYM but when Iam creating a Asset Master the Group Asset field is disabled I have checked the settings in AO21 and made Group Asset field optional but still that particular field is greyed out.
We are using ECC 6.0 Version and I have copied COD- 1IN
I just wanted to know whether SAP has withdrawn support for I.T-Depreciation-India if yes can anybody give me a reference note or country version release so that i can intimate the same to the client.
Regards
SunilDear Ramesh,
Thnx a lot it has worked and my problem has been solved.
Regards
Sunil -
Hi,
I need to build the Fixed Assets 'What-if Depreciation Report' as a BI-Publisher report containing additional data not displayed in the standard report. This report is kicked-off together with running the 'What-if Analysis Program' from a form in FA, but I can't find where the concurrent program is registered to run together with the analysis program generating the data in order to replace the RDF with the my custom RDF. Does anyone know where this is done?
Regards,
ArthurJulie,
In note 30260 point 3, you get the explanation.
The reporting without the option 'posted values' calculates the
asset history sheet as if the catch up method is switched on.
When you use catch up, you have even no problems in comparing the
asset history sheet with the planned values in AW01N.
When you use smoothing, you get a difference between planned and
posted values, as soon as you have postings in the current year,
change the depreciation method and so on.
When you use smoothing, you have to use the indicator 'posted values'
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asset accounting - Integration with the General Ledger - Specify
Intervals and Posting Rules
Best Regards,
Blaz.
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