Problem looming with MacBook Pro Late 2008?

This morning I had some ominous occurrences with my Mac Book Pro.  When I got it out, the battery was quite warm, even though I had turned it off last night before connecting it to the charger.  (It's never warm when it's not using the battery.)  Then, when I pushed the power button, nothing happened until after several pushes.  Eventually it did start up and seems to be working OK, but I'm worried, could this be a sign of a problem?  I lost a hard drive a few years and don't want to repeat that trauma.  Any ideas?  Thanks!

Here is the battery info:
Battery Information:
  Model Information:
  Serial Number:          6N8470F0Q13E
  Manufacturer:          SMP
  Device name:          bq20z951
  Pack Lot Code:          0000
  PCB Lot Code:          0000
  Firmware Version:          002a
  Hardware Revision:          000a
  Cell Revision:          0100
  Charge Information:
  Charge remaining (mAh):          3976
  Fully charged:          Yes
  Charging:          No
  Full charge capacity (mAh):          4041
  Health Information:
  Cycle count:          436
  Condition:          Normal
  Battery Installed:          Yes
  Amperage (mA):          0
  Voltage (mV):          12449
System Power Settings:
  AC Power:
  System Sleep Timer (Minutes):          10
  Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes):          10
  Display Sleep Timer (Minutes):          10
  Automatic Restart On Power Loss:          No
  Wake On AC Change:          No
  Wake On Clamshell Open:          Yes
  Wake On LAN:          No
  Current Power Source:          Yes
  Display Sleep Uses Dim:          Yes
  GPUSwitch:          2
  Battery Power:
  System Sleep Timer (Minutes):          15
  Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes):          10
  Display Sleep Timer (Minutes):          2
  Wake On AC Change:          No
  Wake On Clamshell Open:          Yes
  Display Sleep Uses Dim:          Yes
  GPUSwitch:          2
  Reduce Brightness:          Yes
Hardware Configuration:
  UPS Installed:          No
AC Charger Information:
  Connected:          Yes
  ID:          0x0100
  Wattage (W):          85
  Revision:          0x0000
  Family:          0x00ba
  Serial Number:          0x007279e9
  Charging:          No

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    OWC has what appears to be a battery that will fit your MBP.  They are a reputable vendor for Mac compatible products,
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