Problem starting up my Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen X

Ok well I have a 40GB Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen Xtra, and have had it for about a year. Now earlier today i was attempting to connect it to my computer to copy songs onto it. The battery ran out and i was not able to do this.
When turning my player back on, it got stuck on the loading screen that says EAX and did not move from this. When it is on this screen, i can't turn it off.
I let the battery run out to see if it would start when i then charged it, yet the same happened, and it turns on as soon as i put in the charger it is again stuck on this one loading screen.
I have pressed reset as well, and this makes no difference, it just loads up to the same screen and doesn't move. Any help would be much appreciated, thank you!Message Edited by mattyb23 on 09-25-2005 06:23 PM

Go into rescue mode and run a disk cleanup.

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hol3_c4t,
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