Problem with K8N neo2 plat. and ram

Hello everyone
Recently I had 2*512mo of PC3200 ( double side ), they hold all approximately 235mhz has 2.5/3/3/8 1T (tested separately)
But, when I puts them into dual they are stable under memtest always with 235 2.5/3/3/8 1T but are unstable under Windows, under xp they are stable until 207mhz maximum whereas they hold much higher under memtest
If I want to be stable A 235mhz under Windows it is necessary that I put them in 2T but y' has an enormous loss of perf
I tested different bios (1.37mod, 1.4 official, 1.41mod, 1.5 official, 1.8r3mod, 1.9 official and 1.B4mod) and always the same problem I also tested on port 1 and 3 (near to the CPU) and 2 and 4 but there it is still worse
Here if you have suggestion they are the welcomes
In advance thank you
Config
K8N neo2 platinium
Winchester 3200+
2*512mo chip infinéon
PS: sorry for my bad english

Hello, thanks for your answer
My ram is Apacer value here but in ship infineon
My power supply is a LC power 550w
My video card is an ATI 9600xt sapphire
The HTT/LDT is of 3x for a FSB of 235mhz ( ram synchro )
I have also tested desynchronized ram to 166 ( cpu stable: 283*8.5, ram: 218mhz ) but I have always this problem
Thanks

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Quote from: roller on 27-March-06, 08:33:35
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