Problem with Playsforsure/Windows Media Player/Playli

[size="2" face="Century">For some reason any of the playlists I sync with WMP for my Zen Xtra, don't show up in MediaSource. Why isn't Creative MediaSource more intergraded with WMP or why isn't there a program to convert any playlist from WMP to CMS so it works on my ZEN Xtra. Would be nice for some more Firmware too

Well, it seems that people from creative just try to help when you are interested in buying. My Zen Extra got useless after i installed that last firmware and I have done everything that is in my knowledge but it just does not work. I have tried this forum, various people have tried to help me but they are just some other disappointed and frustrated people like you and me. It is really a shame that thanks to?creative I have to put CA$400 in the garbage.
What a waste!!!
I just recommend you not to start playing with the new firmware. It's gonna screw your player.
Sincerely.
Andros.

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Dan(Sun Oct 19 2008 16:04:52 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time))>
1. Click on Start.
2. Click on Run.
3. Type "regedit" and click Ok.
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5. Double click on HKEY_CURRENT_USER.
6. Then click on +sign beside Software.
7. Now delete all the folders which start with Palm.
8. Also delete the folder called US robotics.
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chat id: 7f2a7664-50e8-40fb-8933-f82278d33b6d
Problem: Palm Deskto & Windows Media Player?
John_Collyer > I have my palm application directory installed to V:\PalmDesktop6App and the user data files installed to V:\jcollyer-files\PalmDataV6_001 This is a removable drive that I install on my work computer. I remove this drive and take it home with me. Doing this allows me the ability to keep my palm data secure but I can still use my computer at work to manage my palm data.
If the V:\ drive is not mounted when I run palm desktop, Palm desktop messes up the "Path" regestry key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\U.S. Robotics\Pilot Desktop\Core]
"DesktopPath"="V:\\PalmDesktop6App\\"
"HotSyncPath"="V:\\PalmDesktop6App\\Hotsync.exe"
"Path"="V:\\jcollyer-files\\PalmDataV6_001"
"UserConduitFolder"="C:\\Documents and Settings\\jcollyer\\Application Data\\HotSync\\Conduits"
"PIMVersion"="6.1.0"
"DesktopExe"="Palm.exe"
@=""
"Desktop Language"="ENG"
"INSTALLDIR"="V:\\PalmDesktop6App\\"
"VM_Username"="John Collyer"
Dan > Hello John_Collyer, Thank you for contacting Palm Technical Support. My name is Dan. How may I help you?
John_Collyer > When the key gets messed up it defaults to the standard palm desktop path:
"C:\Documents and Settings\jcollyer\My Documents\Palm OS Desktop"
I found this out because every time Windows Media player starts it tries to start Palm Desktop or the Palm Desktop install/remove program. I get a pop up window and progress bar that says “Palm Desktop by Access”. The only way to get rid of this pop up window is to shut down windows media player. So if my V: drive is not mounted just starting windows media player corrupts the user “Path” registry settings. It just so happens our work voicemail uses media player on the computer. I am using window media player 11.
What the heck is going on? How can I stop Windows Media Player from triggering the palm desktop application? Better yet why does it even try?
It does this when I simply open windows media player, even without a file. Just opening the Windows Media player application by it’s self causes this behavior.
Dan > Please let me go through the information you have provided.
John_Collyer > Ok standing by...
Dan > I understand that you have issue with the Palm Desktop and windows Media player getting messed up .
Dan > Sure I will guide with the issue .
Dan > May I know since when you are facing the issue ?
Dan > Please let me know the Operating System you are using. Is it Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP/Vista or MAC?
John_Collyer > I had this problem from the first install about two weeks. I use PalmDesktop 4 with my T2 for years on a removable drive never had an issue. PD6 only allows me to set the user path during installation. So I have been having issues with the reg keys getting messed up for a while. I though just creating a .reg file to fix the problems was going to be simple till I found windows media player was trying to autostart palm software???
John_Collyer > Windows XP SP3
John_Collyer > I am a new owner of the Palm Centro not using the T2 with PD6
Dan > Thank you for information .
Dan > I got the issue .
Dan > There are more than one version of the Palm software in the computer .
John_Collyer > No only PD6 now
Dan > That's reason the Drivers in the Registry are messing up and causing the issue .
Dan > Okay .
Dan > Do you have any data in the Palm Desktop ?
John_Collyer > Yes, when the V: drive is mounted everything works great, perfect. Windows Media player even load without a hitch. I would even deal with the .reg fix work around I made to over write the registry. I still don't understand why the application tries to load when it is installed on the V: drive if the v: drive is not present. It has to be the install/uninstall .msi file that runs the Add/Remove programs feature in widows control panel. Why does any of this change the user path?
Dan > I will explain you .
Dan > The reason for change of the path is with the corrupted applications and computer settings .
John_Collyer > Sorry, Why would the .msi file run if Windows Media is started?
Dan > .MSI file is the supporting file for Windows Media player .
Dan > That's reason for executing of .msi file during the windows media player .
Dan > To fix the issue we must perform clean uninstall and reinstall so that you will not have any further issue .
Dan > Let me know if you are comfortable with the clean uninstall and reinstall if the Palm software .
John_Collyer > I've uninstalled PD6 and reinstalled it like 12 times. If the V: drive is missing it really messes up the PD6 software. To keep me from doing this by launching PD6 from the C: drive I installed it to V:. No .exe no launchy. It works fine. What is hooking into windows media player. A .msi is a Microsoft install package, not a media file. We can do a clean install but why would running windows media player start the palm install/uninstall .msi file? I have not heard why?
John_Collyer > All my installs have worked fine. Unless there is a deeper cleaning process you can help me with other than running the remove program, is it worth trying AGAIN?
Dan > Did you perform clean uninstall and reinstall >
John_Collyer > Clean = remove program, reinstall, and sync to a new user folder? Then Yes. Other options?
Dan > No we need top perform few other steps .
John_Collyer > Ok shall I "Remove Program"?
Dan > No please wait .
Dan > First please let me know if you have any data in the Palm Desktop in the computer .
John_Collyer > Yes, but it is also going to be kept in the phone correct? It will survive if we create a new user folder right?
Dan > Yes .
Dan > Please let me know the user name given during the Sync .
John_Collyer > Well then I think it is safe, I have recently hotsynced so the data should be a match?
John_Collyer > John Collyer
Dan > Cool .
Dan > Thank you for information .
Dan > In the computer open My documents -->Palm OS Desktop-->locate folder called CoolyJ .
Dan > In the computer open My documents -->Palm OS Desktop-->locate folder called CoolyJ .
John_Collyer > No user folder there.... It's on the V: drive V:\jcollyer-files\PalmDataV6_001\CollyeJ Yes?
Dan > Please wait .
Dan > Please right click on the Palm Desktop and then click on Properties .
John_Collyer > the .exe in V:\PalmDesktop6App or the shortcut in start menu?
John_Collyer > start menu= V:\PalmDesktop6App\Palm.exe
Dan > You will have the Palm Desktop icon on the computer desktop .
Dan > Okay .
Dan > Thank you for information .
Dan > Please take the back of the Palm Desktop data in the computer .
John_Collyer > Destop target = V:\PalmDesktop6App\Palm.exe tpp
John_Collyer > ??? Please take the back of the Palm Desktop data in the computer
Dan > I mean to tell you that we must save all data of the Palm Desktop in different location .
Dan > I will assist you .
Dan > In the computer open V:drive-->locate Palm folder .
Dan > Open Palm folder and check if you have folder called CoolyJ .
John_Collyer > V:\jcollyer-files\PalmDataV6_001\CollyeJ
John_Collyer > No CoolyJ
Dan > Okay .
Dan > In the computer open Vrive-->Collerfiles-->Copy Palm folder and paste on the computer desktop .
John_Collyer > done
Dan > Okay .
Dan > Do not delete the Pal folder that was copied to computer desktop .
John_Collyer > ok
Dan > First go to Start-->Control Panel-->Add/Remove Programs. There Palm or PalmOne or Palm Desktop will be listed. Click Remove against it.
Let me know once you are done with unistallation process.
John_Collyer > starting
John_Collyer > done, next
Dan > Now in the computer open V:drive-->Collerfiles-->Rename Palm folder to Palmold .
John_Collyer > already there
Dan > Okay .
Dan > Now we need to perform Registry Clean up .
Dan > Please perform the steps provided .
Dan > 1. Click on Start.
2. Click on Run.
3. Type "regedit" and click Ok.
4. Then Registry Editor window will open.
5. Double click on HKEY_CURRENT_USER.
6. Then click on +sign beside Software.
7. Now delete all the folders which start with Palm.
8. Also delete the folder called US robotics.
9. Now Double click on HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE.
10. Then click on +sign beside Software.
11. Now delete all the folders which start with Palm.
John_Collyer > still working
Dan > Please take your time .
Dan > I will be with you .
John_Collyer > done
Dan > Cool .
Dan > You are pretty fast .
Dan > Now clean uninstall of the Palm software is done .
John_Collyer > I was already deep in the registry look at this all thats how I found the "Path"
John_Collyer > Now we reinstall? Can I still use the V: drive for application files and user data?
Dan > Yes .
Dan > You can use V:drive .
Dan > After you install the Palm software perform Sync and make sure that Sync is success .
Dan > And you will not have sny issue with the Windows media player messing up .
John_Collyer > Ok I will start the PD6 install now
Dan > Please go a head .
Dan > Thank you for all the cooperation and patience in the chat session .,
John_Collyer > working almost done
Dan > Awesome .
Dan > But after installation is complete we need to restart the computer .
Dan > We must restart the computer for necessary changes to take place .
John_Collyer > how do I get back to you in support?
Dan > I assure that you will not have any further issue ,
Dan > However if you do have any further issue .
Dan > Please login with the same user name and email address .
John_Collyer > Palm Support can find me after that?
Dan > Yes .
Dan > I will have Our chat session in Our Data Base .
John_Collyer > Ok then it is time for a restart?
Dan > So that once you re contact us we will check with the required information and pull the chat session already we have done with .
Dan > And proceed with the further steps .
Dan > Please go ahead .
John_Collyer > Till then, good bye...
Dan > Please let me know if I can be of any further help .
Dan > Analyst has closed chat and left the room
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Again it is very odd that the ACCESS installer it trying to run when windows media player is launched (even with out any media, app only). Please do not tell me to do another "Clean Install" that is just BABY-TALK tech support at this point!!! I need to know why the PalmDesktop ACCESS installer is hooking into Windows Media Player. There is no doubt something odd is going on. As long as the V: drive where my Palm Desktop applications and user data is stored there is no problem. As soon as the V: drive is off line I have all these issues.
I noticed that PalmDesktop now has advanced media tools to "Make Video" in the media tab of Palm Desktop. This is where you can export a .mpg slide show of all you photos from your palm photos.
I would bet you a free year of Verizon's wireless data plan that the new Palm Desktop is registered as some type of client application to windows media service. When windows media player loads it tries to register all the clients and the Palm media client application is not available so some how MS Windows tries to start the PalmDesktop installer to fix the client media application.
Please note that I am not using Pocket Tunes at all, not trying to sync pTunes with Windows media or Rhapsody or any other media junk. Right now I want my palm to just be a extra smart contact and calendar manager, that’s all.
PALM NEEDS TO PATCH THIS. Palm Desktop should call Windows Media when it needs it, not have Palm Desktop registered as a client application to Windows Media by default!
PLEASE TELL ME THERE IS A SIMPLE FAQ FIX FOR ALL NONSENSE???
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Thank you so much for replying.
Yes I have removed and reinstalled WMP.
I had good results with the PD6 application installed on the default path onto the C: drive with the one exception that if the application was launched by accident and the user data path was not available, the PD6 application would blow away my custom user path registry settings. Now that I know what they are I have made a .reg file to repair my registry to my desired user data paths.
Installing the application on the removable drive appeared to help prevent me from launching the application by accident and overwriting my registry with default user paths.
So which is the less of the two evils?
If the application directory is not available, windows media player still tries to launch the .msi for installing PD6.
If I install the application to the C: drive but the user data to the removable drive, launching the PD6 application without the user data drive will still corrupt my registry settings for a user data path.
Both these issues seem like a logical (if not easy) fix that should be done in the PD6 application and installation package. I mean really, cannot anyone tell me why windows media player is checking the PD6 application directory? Why in PD4 did we have an option control for setting the user data path from the PD4 application? Why is this option not in the PD6 application, just the installer?
I am given a choice during installation to move the user data to another non default location. Why else would this be provided if not to accommodate my kind of request to store the user data into an alternate location other than “My Document”. Certainly Palm is not trying to force the users on how to protect and store their personal data?
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im having a problem installing the windows media player driver off the disc for the n73 it installs everything else but fails to install that anyone know where i can down load a copy.?
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cheers

I have the latest version of Windows Media Player 11. I have the same problem and will try to explain the steps in the best way I can.
I connect the N73 to the laptop using a cable
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Hello w8bsw,
And welcome to Apple Discussions!
w8bsw wrote:
I just got an iPod 5th gen. for my b-day and have a ton of music on Windows Media Player that I want to put on the iPod. When I try to sync, Windows Media Player says to "connect device". I plug in the Ipod but it still says to connect the device. Is the iPod compatible with the Windows media Player >or just iTunes?
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If I can't do this, then how do I purchase and store music on iTunes and keep it all separate from my wife's music?...she has her own iPod and iTunes account with her own music and DOES NOT >WANT my "crappy" music mixed with hers. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
There are several different ways for handling multiple iPods with one computer. One option is to create an entirely new and separate iTunes library. The only downfall to this, is that you will have to manually choose which library to open upon opening iTunes each time. For more help and information regarding these methods, check out this Apple support document.
[How to use multiple iPods with one computer|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1495]
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Hello, I'm having a problem with the play to device feature of windows media player. I am trying to use it to play music files to my T.V. It works fine if i try to play a single file or a small number of files (50 or so), but if I try to play
my entire playlist (346 songs, if it matters)in this way or a large number of random songs, nothing happens. No error messages or freezes either, it's as if i never clicked play. I thought this might be a limitation with the t.v. or my network
(im doing this via wi-fi) but when i tried this using windows explorer instead of windows media player it worked just fine, and this was with all the music on my computer which is about 3000 songs. Therefore, i know this is a problem with windows media
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when i tried this using windows explorer instead of windows media player it worked just fine, and this was with all the music on my computer which is about 3000 songs.
Hi,
According to your description,you said that you used windows explorer.Did you share 3000 songs with your TV?
If so,I think this method is different with "play to" feature.
Also,we haven't found any limitation with Windows media player.
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