PROBLEMS CAPTURING, DROP FRAMES ON 4.5

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO SINCE I HAVE UPDATED TO THE LATEST VERSION I HAVE BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS CAPTURING.

I'm not at my Mac right now to check, but it should be something like this:
Open System Preferences (usually located on the Dock).
Click on the Spotlight pane.
Click on the Privacy tab or button.
There should be an ADD button, click that and add whatever volume(s) you've assign as FCP capture/scratch discs.
That will keep Spotlight from trying to index files as you capture footage which is the root cause of capture problems when using a non-recommended version of FCP with OS 10.4.9.
-DH

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Problems with dropped frames in FCP 4.5 Log & Capture

Thanks for the advice on my previous post regarding sound problems - those are now sorted, but I am having problems with dropped frames in Log and Capture. I am using FCP 4.5 with OS X 10.4.10 on a Powermac G4. CPU 867 mhz dual processor. L2 Cache 256 kb, L3 cache 1 mb. Memory 1g. Bus speed 133hz. I am capturing from a Canon XM1 via Firewire. The scratch disk is a 500gb Seagate FreeAgent USB 2.0, 7200rpm.
Basically, the video and audio are fine while playing back in Log and Capture and I can control the device, but any attempt to capture, whether Capture Now or Clip result in a very jerky picture and aborts with dropped frames after a few seconds. The sound is ok for the few seconds before it aborts. There do not appear to be any problems with the timecode.
My capture preset is DV Pal 48hz.
Any advice or pointers gratefully received.
Thanks, Ally

Well quite. I have just tried it in the internal hard drive and it works fine now. I am going to have to capture everything to my small hard drive and move it across to the external. Then, when I have finished I am going to bang my head against the wall and buy an external HDD with Firewire.
Thanks,
Ally

"Capturing drop-frame media into a non-drop frame clip" error message

I've logged tapes from what will partly be a 3-camera multi-clip project, and have begun to batch capture.
Logged all but one tape some weeks ago, and captured one tape at the time.
Went to batch capture the balance, today. First tape capture went fine. On trying to capture the next tape in the batch I'm getting this message as FCP begins the process:
WARNING: You are about to capture drop-frame media to a non drop-frame clip. If you proceed, you may experience changes in logged in and out points, problems relinking media, or removal of master clip relationships.
In analyzing the situation, the only reason I can think of for the error message is that some of the reels were logged on a DSR-11 that had been set to NON drop-frame, and for which I didn't have the remote control to change the setting.
I haven't run into this while capturing other clips, but those may have been captured via a different deck that does only drop-frame.
So, I'm looking at next steps:
1: Capture anyway and possibly regret that I did that.
(One person on another list reported the same problem, that he had ignored it without any obvious complications.)
2: Relog all the problem clips using my current deck, speeding up the process by using the "go to" window to drive the tape to the existing in and out points and then marking i/o's...
Or...
Suggestions?
Thanks,
Ted.

We've been seeing this stupid error message since v3 and it's never mattered in the slightest. It is always incorrect, anyway. The clips are always drop and the sequences are always drop. It's an FCP programming glitch/bug/screwup. Someday they may or may not fix the mechanism that triggers the warning.
bogiesan

Major problems with dropped frames while trying to capture

Are there any settings where you can change the sensitivity of FCP HD or any settings that I am not aware of?
Trying to capture from DigiBeta through a Sony J30 SDI, the whole thing wount go for a minute without intruption and dropped frames.
I have tryed several tapes and finally I tried to copy through FireWire on to MiniDV on my XL1on a new unused DV-tape and then from there on capture into FCP but the problem remains.
I have had some minor problems with this earlier but never as severe.
I am capturing onto a Lacie BigDisc hooked up through Firewire 800 and there ia 170 GB free so thet should not be a problem.

Andreas,
The J30 specs state "All standard definition, half-inch Betacam format tapes, dating back some twenty years, can now easily be converted to a 25 Mbps DV signal and transferred to a compatible DV device via a single digital interface cable.", but you say you've tried that, and from the specs I'm assuming you'd need some conversion from the deck to go straight into FCP...like a Canopus or like you did dropping to DV tape.
Have you tried a different FW port and/or cable?
Other posts have mentioned changes of FW cables or ports as a solution, so I'm inclined to agree with David that you may require a FW800 card...we purchased one, when we bought our Big Disk Extreme. However, I don't capture to it, only archives and storage.
Are you trying to capture internally to your system drive? (I'd guess not, as I've read some of your posts and would be surprised if you were)
Any recent upgrades/updates or other changes in your config?
K

FCP Capture Dropped frames with advanced pulldown

Ok so here's my problem, I have Final Cut studio with FCP 4.5 and I'm trying to import 24p advanced pulldown media from my tapes, and getting a dropped frames warning that ends import; but after trying both cameras (the one the footage was shot with and a second one) and different tapes with normal footage and 24P advanced I still get the same error message. Then I went and replaced the firewire cable with no luck, and I just went and got a PCI firewire card qualified for video import same dropped frames.
Now before I put in the PCI card I clean installed FCP studio with no luck, I also went through and triple checked every setting in FCP for any problems; and I'm wondering if it might mean that either, I need to replace the media drive I'm importing to or if I need more then my 1GB of RAM?

I too am having the exact same problem with 4.5 (although no advanced pull down) and 24p. Last week I was importing fine, this week, dropped frames right and left using batch capture after logging my clips.
I'm using a dual 2.0ghz G5 with 3.5gb of RAM, 10.4.9, booting off a 250gb internal (48gb free) disk but using a G-Tech 500gb firewire 800 external firewire drive for scratch(400gb free). Media is miniDV, tape deck is Sony GVD1000 and I've tried my DVX100b for playback as a test. I've gone thru the FCP checklist and used Disk Utility and Disk Warrior (no problems there). I've tried different tapes (including ones that were successfully captured last week).
I'm suspecting that some recent download of QTime, OSX, or iTunes is at fault. Anyone else suspect the same?

Bad Problem with Dropped Frames

I'm running FCP 6 on my 2GHz Intel Core Duo Macbook. I've got IGB 667 MHZ RAM.
I hadn't been having problems all day when all of the sudden, BAM, every 1 or two seconds I get the Dropped Frames error.
This happens when I am editing MPEG4 video. I get the dropped frames both with and without audio. There are no other sequences or programs open.
Would this problem arise from taking multiple shots from a single clip?
It's getting pretty bad guys, so any ideas are welcome.
thanks.

OK, i think i've figured out what the problem may be. When i added an MPEG 4 clip to the sequence in question, a window popped up asking me if I would like to change my timeline settings to match the clip. I said yes. Whatever was changed by this is what is causing the problem.
What would this have changed and how can i change it back?

Problem with dropped frames

Can anyone make a suggestion on how to fix this?
It keeps popping up every few seconds & I cannot watch a single sequence without constant interruptions. It says that one of the solutions is to increase the speed of the disk. I don't know what that means...kind of new to this stuff. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Mark

It's a 1 TB drive with 388 GB free. It's formatted "Mac OS Extended (Journaled). It's connected via IEEE 1394 cable. I'm working in 16:9. Thing is, I've got a rough cut of about a 20 minute short, and it's been moving along fine. Then this started to happen in just one spot near the beginning. I left final cut on & left for about 2 hours. I came back & it was going thru some procedure with the video that said it would take 20 minutes to complete. I didn't know what it was doing & I cancelled the process so I could get back to work. Now it won't let me go more than 5 seconds without stopping.

Dropped frames in Capture: Express vs Pro

Hi, I'd been using Express for a year and a half; last week I bought and installed Studio Pro2, partly because of the following experience which surprised both myself and my lab instructor.
I had a Standard Definition miniDV which resulted in many dropped frames while capturing at my house with Express on my iMac. Subsequently, I successfully captured the entire tape without any dropped frames on my university's computer which is a tower (G5? Intel?) running Pro (Pro6? Pro5? Pro4?). Out of curiousity, I tried capturing the same tape from the same camcorder using the same tower, except this time I did it with the tower's Express instead of the tower's Pro (yes, the tower has both applications installed). The problem of dropped frames returned, just as badly as they had been at my home. We are very surprised!
Is there a reason that Pro does a better job of interpretting potentially bad tape than Express does??? I would have assumed the Capture algorithms to be the same, but that no longer seems likely. Does Apple know that there is a difference between the two applications in the success of Capture? Should they be notified, or am I being naive to consider that they don't know the difference?
Thanks; have a great year...
20" iSight PowerPC Mac OS X (10.4.9)
20" iSight PowerPC Mac OS X (10.4.8)
20" iSight PowerPC Mac OS X (10.4.8)
20" iSight PowerPC Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I just discovered my ''subscription'' response was off:-(( couldn't figure out why nobody's answered my last 2 posts:-)) I'm not rude enough to ignore people who help me, I'm just stupid!
It cost me; two months ago I purchased Studio2 as a direct result of my ''problems'' with FCE; tonight I read your post and realize the problem was actually 10.4.9 + 3.0.1. Needless to say, I'm now on 10.4.10. Lucky for me, I get Studio2 at academic prices, and I will actually benefit from DVD Pro as I now own an HD camera, and Compressor, but I still feel stooopid.
I have not been able to verify the school's versions of FCE and FCP (lab's closed in August), but it makes perfect sense that their FCE is 3.0.1, whereas their FCP was probably one of the earlier (non-offending) versions.
Thanks, and have a great year,
Harvey

Dropped frames on capturing video

Every time i try to capture video from my Z1 (using DV Pal) I'm getting a dropped frames warning after around 30 seconds of capture. This is happening without exception on any of the 25 tapes or so I shot on a recent assignment. Earlier captures made during the assignment from the same tapes worked fine, so I know it's not tape damage...rather some setting that has mysteriously altered...anyone have any suggestions? Many thanks!
ibook g4 Mac OS X (10.4.2)

I think I had the same problem as you about a month ago. I tried 13 different things to solve it, spent some unnecessary money, and a whole lot of wasted time in trying to fix this problem. Hope this list will save you time and money. There could also be more solutions I didn't try, that might fix your problem instead.
Problem:
Consistent Drop Frames,or Time Code Breaks during Capture. Problem never occurred Before until Recent.
What I'm Using:
1. Powerbook 512mb sdram, 1.67ghz powerpcG4,
2. Final Cut Pro v4.5, Quicktime v7.1.5
3. G-Drive 7200rpm External Hard Drive as my scratch, scratch folders with different names.
4. Firewire 400 from camera to hard drive, hard drive to laptop
5. I'm using a CANON GL2 as my deck.
Solutions I tried and failed:
1. I changed the memory& cache from 100% to 75%.
2. Turned off the Abort Capture on Drop Frames--- but got time code breaks, and clips that jump frames.
3. Capturing on all of the available Firewire NTSC settings.
4. Capturing on Non-Controllable Device.
5. Batch Capturing and the Capture Now.
6. Deleting Quicktime Receipts... all the packages, and Reinstalling Quicktime.
7. Used MiniDv tapehead cleaner on the GL2 camera/deck.
8. Tried three different MiniDv tapes shot with LP and SP.
9. Trashing Final Cut Pro preferences, and turing off the Mirror on Desktop A/V setting.
10. Capturing to USB 2.0 Hard drive.
11. Capturing to Internal Drive.
12. Different Firewire Cable.
13. A Panasonic MiniDV Camcorder to transfer the footage internally.
Things that do work
1. Using MiniDV with a DVCPRO adapter to a DVCPRO Tape Deck to transfer footage.
Haven't tried:
1. *Fixing that Volume Error Structure.
2. Re-installing FCP.
** What solved my problem was posted by gympool:
Why isn't this the very first response: there are many posts regarding capture problems when running FCP 4.5 on OS 10.4.9
you can do an archive and install back down to 10.4.8 or...
The simple solution seems to be to remove the designated capture folder from Spotlight's search.
Open system preferences
Open spotlight
Select Privacy
click on the +
add your capture scratch folder
Reboot.

Dropped frames while capturing

Out of the blue I'm having problems with dropped frames during capture, and no video whatsoever is being digitized to my scratch disk after I "abort" the capture with the escape key (after an endlessly spinning pinwheel indicates the failure, but the tape in my Canon GL2 keeps running anyway). I have a 2nd Internal Drive with 120GB of storage (45GB available). I have already successfully captured three complete DV tapes with no problems, and suddenly Tape #4 started dropping frames. So does Tape #5. Could a Quicktime update be causing this problem? What's up? Final Cut Express 2.0.3.

has anyone really solved this yet? the apple advisory mentions upgrading to fce 5, but i don't see that that exists yet.
i have a sony dcr-hc96, fce 2.0.3 (willing to upgrade), os 10.4.9 and having the 5-minute "dropped frames on capture" freeze problem. i've bought defrag software and a spanking new lacie 500Gb drive for my project. no luck. i've "hid the capture scratch folder from spotlight". no luck.
i was having the issue, then, before reading the forum, unfortunately updated QuickTime to 7.3. but I was having the exact same problem in 7.2 or whatever I upgraded from anyway. I haven't tried to go back to 7.2 yet because it sounds complicated.
does anyone know the answer to this: will the QT 7.3/dropped frame problem be solved with an upgrade to FCE 4 (the newest one for sale at the Mac store)? Or, will the QT 7.3 problem be fixed with an upgrade to OS 10.4.10? [unfortunately, i can't do the latter without saying goodbye to my Pro Tools 6.9.2 and having to potentially upgrade that software, too.)
thanks.

Suddenly: Dropped Frames on Capture

I've NEVER had a problem with dropped frames. I installed the FCP 5.0.3 upgrade, then had massive problems with dropped frames. In fact, I can't digitize anything: DSR-11, VHS with non-controllable device, nothing. I did the entire troubleshooting routine, then finally trashed my prefs file. Problem solved! I captured everything to my heart's content yesterday. Shut down the G5 last night...turned it back on this morning. Problem is back. Trashed prefs file. Problem won't go away. I can't capture anything.
In troubleshooting, I tried my G5, my G4 Powerbook...all had the same problem. What gives?

Hi Jerry
I have the same issue with FCP 5, (dropped frames on capture.)
My setup is a brand new G5/Quadcore.
OS was installed from the factory and updated online to 10.4.3
FCP 5 Studio, (installed from the Suite disk set) updated online to current updates for the entire suite, Pro Apps updated, etc.
Memory in G5: 2GB
Storage: Xserve RAID 3.5TB, with Raid Admin 1.5 and drivers 1.5 on RAID. All fibre channel connections are via an Emulex switch, (12 port.)
Source Deck: Betacam UVW-1800, connected via component video.
Capture Device: AJA Io, (original Io) updated to 2.1 drivers.
I'm still having dropped frame, right from the get go, during capture.
I also have a G4 with FCP 4.5 HD, (OS X 10.3.9) which I also connect to the Io box, (but not at the same time) which has no issues with dropped frames.
Do you have any ideas why the G5 drops frames but the G4 doesn't?

Dropped Frames and Render/Playback problems in Final Cut Express HD

I use FCE HD and edit HD video off my Sony camcorder. Recently I've got rid of my old Imac G5 and have a newer 2GHz PowerPC G5 with more RAM (2GB) off a friend because my old mac wasn't fast enough and was incapable of playing back some of my edits.
At first when i got my new mac things looked faster and it was playing transitions without dropped frames etc. However now i've started editing again and imported new projects, i've got a big problem with dropped frames during playback and rendering. I get dropped frames during unedited clips let alone at transitions and for some reason, fce will no longer render video. Unedited clips from my latest project need rendering, which i've never had before, but when i try to render them the 'writing video...' pop up flashes, but nothing happens and the video is not rendered!
Now i can't watch and edit some of my projects without dropped frames stopping playback every other clip and i can't do anything with my new ones because the video need rendering but can't be rendered!
Can anyone help me out on either topic?

Hi Ross,
Well, most people, myself included, would say you should consider yourself lucky if doing video via USB ever worked at all for you. Overall, USB is not up to the demands of video, and that is most likely why you are getting your dropped frames problem.
The solutions would be either use your internal HD or get a good external FW drive. I know this is frustrating, as it has been for many people who look at the raw specs where USB 2.0 appears faster than FW400 but in real life, for video especially, it is not.

Sudden Dropped Frames Problem with 720p24 material

After sailing along for months with perfect operation from Final Cut Pro, editing 720p24 (I'm still running 5.0.4), I have encountered a mysterious hangup that I can't seem to solve. It probably began shortly after I was doing a test on a new project and mistakenly used a 44khz sound file rather than a 48khz. That project ran fine for a couple of days as I played with it, then abruptly began to drop frames at very particular points. I trashed the sound file and reimported it as a 48khz file and that seemed to fix things for a day or two. Then, to my utter horror, when I opened a very large ongoing project that I needed to tweak, I found that the dropped file problem has corrupted my entire FCP operation. I have tried changing various settings, such as unlimited RT, and trashed the preferences as well, but none of the straightforward cures seems to make a difference. I've also looked at all the suggestions in the Apple dropped frames article at [docs.info.apple.com]. I have never had a problem with dropped frames prior to this.
My scratch disk is a raided SATA drive with plenty of space to spare. This setup has worked flawlessly since July. I have jumped around over the past 10 days from work on old SD projects to 720p24 projects and have been changing settings here and there to accomodate this. Nothing else seems to have been changed that may account for the glitch.
I have not reinstalled the software.
Anything that comes to mind as a logical next step would be most appreciated!

Yes during panning or zooming I can see that frames are dropping in the stats panel.
I'm encoding at 500kbps video + 48 audio, outputting only one stream.
The content in the input monitor shows exactly what the cam is seeing, with the pan and/or zoom correctly displayed. On the output monitor side the action will freeze momentarily when frames are dropped. Then the display will skip to the point where no more frames are being dropped.
The native frame rate for the cam is 29.97, but as an output, averaging in the dropped frames the rate may drop as low as 27 or 28fps according to the stats panel. The difference being the number of dropped frames.
FMLE is installed on a Dell Studio 15 with 4 GB RAM, which I would think would be plenty adequete.
Thanks for your response.
Adninjastrator

Digitizing Pre-Logged Clips: Drop Frame/Non-Drop Frame Discrepency

I have about 100hrs of DV NTSC footage that has been logged and now I need to capture it.
Everything seemed good to go:
• I ctrl+click the clip intended to capture
• Select 'batch capture' (it initializes)
• Settings are (apple setting) DV NTSC 48kHz
• I click okay and I get an error message that reads:
"WARNING: You are about to capture drop-frame media to a non-drop frame clip. If you proceed, you may experience changes in logged in and out points, problems relinking media, or removal of master clip relationships."
Now, the setting noted above is set at 29.97 not 30.
I tried to see if there was anything I could select/deselect in the logged clips and came up dry.
I made duplicated the apple setting and changed the fps to 30. This yielded no error message but did on the second clip I tried.
Does anyone have any idea on how I should be troubleshooting this?
Due to the high volume of footage, and workflow schedule, I'd really rather not screw this up.
I turn to you my faithful FCP gurus.
Thanks.
Ian
p.s. I'm running FCP v.5.1.4

Just check your timecode accuracy before you get any further... i.e. does the timecode in the captured clip match the code that's on the tape. If so, you're good to go on... if not, I'd recapture using the proper TC... it's pretty easy if you do it from the tape in the Log and Capture window.
Jerry

Drop Frame/Non-Drop Frame Warning

Hi,
First off, thank you to the experienced people out there who take the time to explain things and answer these questions.
About the following warning:
Warning: You are about to capture drop-frame media to a non-drop frame clip. If you proceed, you may experience changes in logged in and out points, problems relinking media, or removal of master clip relationships.
I logged about 40 clips by entering In and Out points (from a piece of paper), turned on my camera, went to Batch Capture, and it gave me this warning. I read a little bit about timecode (I know little about it) and realized that I didn't use semi-colons when entering my timecode in the Log and Capture window. Apparently this is important; I have a Panasonic GS500.
I captured anyway, and I have all the video I want; the "handles" inherent in the In and Out points I used should accomodate even several seconds of any timecode discrepancy.
My question: When I am done editing and go to recapture my sequences at full DV quality, will there be a difference between the In and Out points of my clips and the tape? Have I mis-captured media files in some way? How can I tell if the Media Start and Media End information isn't out of sync?
Cyrus

Just check your timecode accuracy before you get any further... i.e. does the timecode in the captured clip match the code that's on the tape. If so, you're good to go on... if not, I'd recapture using the proper TC... it's pretty easy if you do it from the tape in the Log and Capture window.
Jerry

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