Problems errors ram with cpu vcore change on k7n2 delta2 platinum
hello
i'm a french new owner of k7n2 delta2 platinum and i got something strange.
I have 2*512 PC3200 cas3 of kingston value ram with voltage 1.75 instead of 1.6v running in dual CAS 2.5/3/3/8 at FSB 195 like the cpu : 2500xp barton.
With occt and memtest86+ i'm stable with a CPU vcore at 1.725.After 195 the computer starts but not really stable. So i put the cpu vcore at 1.75 to put higher fsb and then i get thousands RAM errors with memtest. i tried with cas 3/3/3/11 and it was worst. On the bios B6 i tried with different settings : agressive, optimal, 1/1, auto, manual, patch ddr or not...and always the same. My PSU is 450w and i've 4 HD 1player 1 burner.
Of course i'm happy to reach 195 but i feel disapointed to be stop with this problem of vcore/ram
Quote from: osnavi on 23-September-05, 11:36:11
"...So i put the cpu vcore at 1.75 to put higher fsb and then i get thousands RAM errors with memtest..." I would say it's not the v. core but the CPU o/c. that gives that errors, as it make not sence to increase v.core only for itself.
Oh yes it does
The CPU and memory work hand-in-hand. If one is out of sync it can cause the other to start spitting out errors.
You are overclocking and that more of a scientific art, not an exact science.
Components react differently to an entire list of variables, especially the CPU/memory.
What you are trying to do requires trail and error testing however I agree the Kingston memory is holding you back at this point with the clock you are pushing
I would go for the most stable FSB settings that allow Dynamic Overclock to be enabled to SERGEANT before I would go for ultra High FSB because you will peak the system at its highest performance curve when you need the boost, and I would bet money that peak would be higher than any strait FSB over-clock you can hit stable.
Psychologically allot of people think their systems are not running the highest performance it can unless they set the system up at the highest FSB/multiplier and that is simply not true with dynamic overclocking enabled and correctly tuned with the rest of the components.
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i'm a french new owner of k7n2 delta2 platinum and i got something strange.
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With occt and memtest86+ i'm stable with a CPU vcore at 1.725.After 195 the computer starts but not really stable. So i put the cpu vcore at 1.75 to put higher fsb and then i get thousands RAM errors with memtest(even if i stay fsb 195). i tried with cas 3/3/3/11 and it was worst. On the bios B5 i tried with different settings : agressive, optimal, 1/1, auto, manual, patch ddr or not...and always the same. My PSU is 450w noname and i've 4 HD 1player 1 burner & a geforce 5200 o/c 10%.
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KnN2 Delta2 Platinum board
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Last night I went into the bios of my new board, and unthinkingly set to CELL settings to manual and jacked up the FSB way up. Shouldn't have been working on my computer after a 12 hour shift. :( Anyway, it didn't boot when I reset. I tried clearing my CMOS and have unplugged the power, taken out the battery and the whole shabang in the CMOS clearing faq, but its still not giving me any beep codes or anything at all. I suspect my CMOS isin't clearing, however I'm wondering if its possible I've fried my new barton 2800 XP, my board, my ram, or all of the above. :( :(. I've read a ton of other delta boards having a safe mode jumper, j10, which will reset the fsb setting to 100 mhz, but can't find it anywhere for the delta2 platinum.
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Thanks in advance.Quote
Originally posted by axeluktoo
Hi,
Muncher23: Hmm, I've seen this before only recently - no solution - as yet, that I know of. You could try putting a lower FSB CPU in the mobo and then clear the CMOS - it might default to the CPU's lower FSB setting. Might work, then again may not.
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I suspect my CMOS isin't clearing
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What is the make/model of the memory (both sticks the same?).
You may have some faulty memory or you need to increase the memory voltage.
Here is a program to test the memory for errors.
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