Problems installing Panther

Hi,
Here's my problem...
I bought an iMac G4 (700MHz, 256MB, 40GBHD) that came with Tiger 10.4,
It was running well enough, but Tiger was being buggy, wouldn't update, and i got locked out of a user without a password... .
So, i decided that i'll just reinstall OS X, But OS X didn't install, so i erased the HD. After that, it wouldn't accept OS X.
When it didn't work i tried to install Ubuntu, but there wasn't enough Memory.
Then i tryed to installed Xubuntu, it partitioned the HD ect.. Then wouldn't install either. Only LiveCD...
I'm thinking it might of done something to the mac?
I also attempeted to install OS9 but, it was stuck at the icon with the folder mac icon...
Anyways now if i try to use my Panther discs to install i get a
" panic(cup 0): Unable to find driver for this platform: "PowerMac4,2". "
and a
" panic: We are hanging here. . ."
Is there anyway to Install Mac OS back onto my G4?
it would be great to get this working again.
Thanks.

What OSX disks did you use to try this install attempt and what option did you use to try the install, Archive and Install or Erase & Install?
@ Littetshoulders:
I used Panther Discs, and i Erased and Installed,
when that didn't work, i booted up into the install, reformatted the HD in Disc Utility, and then it wouldn't accept the discs anymore.
Sorry, I don't know anything about Ubuntu or Xubuntu installations so I'm not much help in that department but that certainly could have some bearing though if the reinstall of OSX didn't work in the first place it sounds as if the problem was already evident before that attempt.
Yea, but it does sound kinda weird that Linux wouldn't instill eather..
Most likely wouldn't install from your OS9 disks if there was some major disk damage at this point (just a guess on my part).
well it wouldn't boot so i'm guessing it's just an OSX only model =\
Was there any error given when you attempt to boot to the 10.3 install disk? Will it just not startup to the disk? What exactly do you mean that it crashes when you boot to the install disk?
Heres What will happen:
- I will startup the Mac with the 1st Install Disc
- It will show the apple logo
- It will then immediately crash
" http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8948/picture001m.jpg "
@ cornelius:
i just wanted you guys to know that i'm not new, and i can understand how to do these things, i didn't mean it the way you thought.
That suggests a hardware problem. You might want to boot from your Apple Hardware Test disk and run the extended tests in a loop (hold down Ctrl + L during the tests.) If you are not able to boot from the AHT disk, please post back and let us know.
Okay will do
@ Littetshoulders ..again:
And as an aside to Alexandar, I too hope you don't feel our questions or responses are in anyway condescending to your knowledge et al. That certainly is not our intention. Your problem seems quite complex and needs everyone to keep on the same page sort of speak....hence our questions. My apologies also if that is how you interpreted any of our responses.
lol i don't and i understand,
i guess i should of thought about what i was going to post a little harder :S
Edit: I couldn't find the disc, but i found a old AppleCare CD with OS 9.1 on it,
it's booting up, ill post back if it works
Message was edited by: alexandar

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    Yeah, it's the 2nd disc... I put it in when it was asked for, it ran its course but it said "There Were Errors" afterwards... which is another thing I REALLY can't figure out, because I've used these discs to install Panther a few times without any problems or warnings (I had a boot drive crash about a year ago and had to use them to reinstall everything; this Archive & Install's like the 3rd time, though I STILL can't figure out why/what this Geek Squad guy must've done to cause my OS to downgrade like that...).
    Firefox SEEMS to be working fine (knock wood), but I'd really like to figure this out, get Safari working too.
    So what are you guessing? Anything I need to try changing in the settings?? Or adjusting with Flash?? I WOULD delete it and use Firefox to download it/try reinstalling it, but I'm really not sure if that's going to work...

  • Can you install Panther on an eMac using retail disks?

    I've had problems in the past installing Panther onto an eMac using retail disks.
    is there a problem doing this??
    past issue - once installed, and booting for the first time, the screen on the eMac would only show the center 50%, the cursor would not go outside of it but there were buttons and icons outside of it. i had to install from the eMac disks and then upgrade to server. (i was doing a OS X Server install onto an eMac then)
    current issue - i can't boot from the Panther disk 1!!! checking to make sure it is not the disk..... my client was in the middle of installing Panther, and in the middle of disk 1 it froze and i think gave a KP based on his report of what happened.
    thanks
    bob

    When you get the blinking mac face/question mark when booting, this means that your machine can't find the startup disk it's looking for - whether cd or hard drive. After a moment, it then searches until it finds any startup disk. You can lose your Classic - OS9, while doing operating systems loads if you don't restore it from your original system disks that came with your machine. There may be problems trying to go back to 10.2 from 10.3. It's not a problem I've had, but someone was telling me that the major upgrades (Jaguar to Panther) may have firmware updates that aren't compatible if you try to reload the older OS. It's best to install Panther, then reinstall your applications from the original disks that came with your machine.

  • Installing Panther On A Recent Computer

    I know this is an odd question but I am wondering if it is possible to install Panther on a partition separate from my Leopard partition or even into Fusion on the same partition? My computer is an early 2008 MBP.
    I have one piece of graphics software that does not work on 10.4, 5, or 6. I want to use it from time to time and I have the discs with 10.3 from my eMac which died a couple of years ago. I also have the install disc for 10.2 and for 10.1 (from an old iBook) any of which would be compatible with this software.
    The software is the old Kai Power Tools plug ins for Photoshop and Painter.
    If the earlier OS X is a problem can anyone suggest modern software equivalents of KPT ink dropper etc
    Tony

    Tony:
    Are the PATA HDD easy to get?
    Not at all. The iBook G3 has a limitation with regards to the size (capacity) of the HDD because the BootROM will only see 128 GB, but that is a lot more than 10 GB or whatever the original was. Here are a few I think would do fine for you:
    Seagate Momentus 5400.3 ST9120822A 120GB Hard Drive
    Fujitsu MHV2120AT 100GB Hard Drive
    There are others, of course, but I couldn't get the long links to work. I recommend 100 or 120 GB. If you choose to go for something smaller here are a couple:
    Seagate Momentus 5400.2 80GB Hard drive
    Hitachi HTS541060G9AT00 60GB Hard Drive
    Look over these and post back with questions.
    You will find step by step directions at iFixit. Here are few tips you may find helpful:
    • Print out the ifixit directions as well as the screw guide ahead of time.
    • Be sure you have the right tools. You don't want to damage the screw heads or you may never get them out. And the Torx screw driver is critical. For a spudge I use the handle of an old toothbrush (choose one made of hard plastic), cut off the brush and bevelled the handle end like a flat blade screw driver). For some spudge jobs a credit card will do the trick.
    • Picking up on one user’s suggestion, I clicked on the pages of each step which involved removing screws to enlarge, then printed out the pages. I poked holes in the paper where the screws were removed, poked the screws in the holes and stacked the pages in order in which there were removed. Reassembling was a lot easier. No cups to tip over and spill. No guessing. Each screw was exactly in the right place. You can use an ice cube tray, egg carton, dixie cups etc. I previously used small medicine cups one for the screws in each step. I nested them so that the last ones out and the first to go back in are on top. (Some users report cutting up the screw guide and placing the applicable section in each container.)
    • Be very careful pulling out leads. Hold the lead as close to the plug as possible and wiggle (the plug ) to loosen its grip. Don’t hold the wires and pull as that can damage the cable, or worse, in some instances pull the wires out of the plug. Indeed, some users have pulled the socket off the logic board! Use needle nose pliers or tweezers if you can access the plug, or nudge the plug with a small instrument to help loosen its grip.
    • Use force gently in removing parts. Separating upper and lower case takes some doing. Use a plastic tool (spudge) so as not to leave marks.
    • Refer to the screw guide when reassembling computer. Putting longer screws in the wrong place can perforate the circuit board.
    cornelius

  • Need help installing panther to my bondi blue imac g3

    I have recenlty acquired a bondi blue imac g3. it has os 9.0 on it but i am trying to install osx 10.3 . i have gotten an unsued copy of 10.3 but when i insert the disks into the disc drive the are unredable by my computer. i have made sure that i have upgraded my hardware to the required levels but still have had no luck. any help here would be greatly apprecieated.

    "I have recenlty acquired a bondi blue imac g3. it has os 9.0 on it but i am trying to install osx 10.3."
    I have several suggestions, with the first involving a check of the iMac's firmware to be sure that the Firmware Update 1.2 has already been run on it, prior to installing OS X.  It has been so long since I explored my Panther installer disk, but it may be found on it.  The second suggestion I'd make would be to replace the iMac's internal 3.6-volt, ½AA lithium battery.  I prefer the Saft batteries over some of the competitor's equivalents.  It's 1,200 mAh is as good as you'll find, whereas some others are rated less - 1,000mAh or less.  If the computer has been disconnected from electrical power for some time, the battery is likely very weak or dead.  A dead battery can cause startup issues, so it's good to eliminate the potential for problems caused by leaving a bad battery in the computer.  This web site has a lot of useful info for maintaining/upgrading tray-loading iMacs.  The next hardware areas to address before installing Panther would be the amount of internal SDRAM installed and the hard drive's capacity.  If you install a larger internal hard drive, you must partition it so that the first partition is about 7.8-7.9 GBs.  This first partition that's less than 8 GBs is the required volume for an OS X installation in the tray-loading iMacs.
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  • Installing Panther on iBook 500mhz

    Hi,
    Just a quick one...
    I was just about to order some extra RAM (512mb)for this ibook G3 500mhz (only has 64mb at the moment) I got so I can run Panther, however, I thought before ordering it, I'd check if the Panther install CDs would work.. I was just curious..
    So i popped it in the CD drive, clicked on Install OSX and the ibook restarted.. but it didn't start the Panther installation.. instead it booted normally into 10.0.3 (I even held down 'c' whilst restarting).
    I kinda expected this as it does say 'at least 128mb of memory' on the PDF... am I right in thinking it won't even try to install Panther if theres only 64mb of RAM?
    I didn't wanna shell out for the extra RAM and find out Panther wouldn't install anyway.. hehe.. method to my madness
    Any tips/opinions would be appreciated.
    Thanks,
    ian

    Were you started up from the Panther CD when this happened? In other words, did you start up from the CD instead of the hard drive prior to clicking on "Install"?
    Panther has been successfully installed on an iBook 500 MHz. You need more RAM for it to happen. The main drawback is hard drive space. If you have the little dinky 10 GB hard drive, you could run into problems.
    My husband has Panther installed on his, but he doesn't even have AppleWorks installed. He doesn't use iTunes or iPhoto. If you want to do anything besides internet surfing and e-mail, you may have problems.
    It is generally recommended to keep 5 GB free in order to run OS X smoothly.
    That's hard to do on an iBook with a (nominal) 10 GB hard drive that is, in actuality, only 9.31 GB.

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    I have been trying to install panther (10.3)on my 266 beige for a couple months (every time I have a few hours to play with it), without success. I have used XPF and the install is alomost complete when I get the "an error has occurred. Please try installing again". After reading various comments from a lot of users about what to do and what I need, here is where I am at:
    I have a Sonnet G4 processor card, a partitioned 80 GB hard drive, a PCI card for USB (and had to press the CUDA button to make that work), and 2 RAM cards to get me past 500MB of RAM. I bought the beige in '97, and have never replaced the PRAM battery, so that is on my list. I tried pulling the RAM cards, and tried to install, but the error message was that 10.3 wanted more than 32 MB of ram to install(I did not pull the pci card when attempting this latest install). When I startup, now I hear a broken glass sound with a blank screen, but I can restart and all seems to work. I have zapped the pram and reset open firmware; but the broken glass sound is still there from a cold start (never on a restart). I know my other problem was XPF v.4, instead of 3.1.
    Besides getting the new pram battery, how can I satisfy the RAM needs of panther for install if I have to pull the cards I put in? Do I need to yank the pci card as well? After doing that, do I need to reset anything prior to attempting to install panther.
    Thanks for any help. I hope I am putting this in the right location for discussions... I initially posted this as a reply until I figured the new format out.

    Paul:
    Tina is absolutely correct about the RAM and she's given you links to reputable dealers.
    I was a bit confused by your terminology, "ram cards". I'm assuming you mean the RAM DIMM's, simply this is RAM that you install in the computer. The Beige can take up to 756MB of RAM. I'm assuming you've installed two 256MB DIMMs for a total of 512MB?
    You might check to make sure that the DIMMs are properly seated. Once you've set them into the slot, put one finger on each end of the DIMM and press down firmly. The DIMM should go all the way into the slot and you'll hear a definite click. The tabs at either ends of the slot should be fully closed against the DIMMs.
    After checking that or possibly reseating the DIMMs, press the cuda button as Tina has suggested. The run DIMM First Aid in OS9. Ideally, you'll have PC100 CL222 or at least CL322 DIMMs installed.
    I've recently reinstalled Panther back onto my Beige. I did not remove any PCI cards, RAM or anything else from my Beige. I have a 200Gb hard drive hooked up to an ATA100/133 PCI card. I did reformat the drive (with the zero option chosen) as I'd had a couple of failed Tiger attempts.
    I installed OS9.2.2 on the second partition. I used XPF v3.1 with the "helper" drive option set to the OS9 partition. I had the OSX disk in the DVD drive. Once I told XPF to install OSX, it did the rest. I do know that my first attempt which did not have the "helper" option failed.
    Okay, Good luck!
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