Problems posting with KT3 Ultra2 Motherboard

I just purchased a MSI KT3 Ultra2 ATX motherboard as an upgrade. After
installing it an all the components, I had difficulty booting at
times. I would get boot error beeps, specifically two short ones, than
8 long ones. The D-Bracket would initialize, however it would stop and
fail at "Boot Attempt" - the first D-Bracket 2 light is lit up red.
I though I had a problem with the power supply, which was 250 watts,
so I changed it to another one. I was able to boot up the system a
couple of times just fine (get to the bios screen and past it),
install the OS, however after turning it off and trying to turn it
back on, it would not work. After I changed the power supply the
problem was constant and now i cannot even get to the bios screen at
all. Before when the system was running it was fine, no errors and I
kept it on for about 10 hours with no problems at all.
My other specs include:
Antec 300 watt ATX (with 12V thing for P4, but not attached)
MSI Geforce4 mx440 card
512 Meggs Samsung 2700 SRAM 1-dimm
IBM ATA66 Hard drive
Floppy drive
Athlon XP 1800+ Boxed (using the retail CPU fan)
Now every once in a while I get to the bios screen after which the system runs fine, but most of the time I get these beeps. I tried moving around everything and the system is barebone.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Thank you,
George

Hi,
Read the top articles on trouble shooting....
Anyway, it could still be your PSU, borrow one from a friend and try again.....

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    First I changed the CPU form my old AMD XP 2100+ to the new Barton 3000 + with its new Arctic Cool Copper Silent 2TC.
    Then I went into BIOS and raised the FSB to 166 MHz, which should be the correct one, or do I have to put 167 MHz in there (since 166.666666 MHz is rounded to 167)?
    Then I exited and watched the restart...but it didn't start-up it only got me 3 long beeps at the HOST.
    After some whining and beating I plugged out anything and cleared CMOS and started the whole thing again:
    System after Clearing CMOS:
    Mainboard: KT3 Ultra 2 (BIOS v5.7)
    CPU: AMD XP 3000+  FSB 100 MHz
    RAM: 1x512 MB Infineon PC3200 CL 2-3-3-7 (BIOS setting CAS Latency by "SPD")
    Storage: Western Digital WD800BB (80 GB) (Firmware 17.07W17)
    Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 172T with Driver Version 1.0
    OS: Windows 2000 Professional with Service Pack 4
    With all Default settings, the Computer boots up, and is correctly Recognized as a Barton 1300 MHz.
    When increasing FSB to 133 MHz it is correctly displayed as a Barton 2200+
    NOW...
    ...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
    Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
    Since my system before was running on "Ultra" with my old AMD XP 2100+.
    There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
    Thanks for any Input you can give me on the problem.
    Iscaran

    Iscaran, you are indeed correct in the statement which you made
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    ...after adding one BIOS setting after another I narrowed the problem down to the "CPU Fast Command (decode)" Function...if set to Ultra it does not boot-up when running 166 MHz FSB, it does not even let me into BIOS. I have to clear CMOS and restart from scratch again...
    This setting can be set to fast/ultra on the KT3 Ultra2 when using PC2100 ram running at 266. However, when using PC2700 ram running at 333, this setting MUST be set to normal for the satisfactory operation of the board. I know that you have PC3200 ram actually installed but it is only running at 333.
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    Is this normal and expectable with a Barton 3000+ running at the native 166 MHz FSB or not ?
    Yes, absolutely normal
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    There is only one more thing I noticed, the CPU V-Core is shown to be only 1.616 V (setting on "Auto" but it should be 1.65 V ? Should I increase the V-Core to 1.675 V in order to get closer to 1.65 V or shouldn't I worry about ?
    How are you measuring this ie Bios or o/s utility? Not unknown that these are incorrect. However, if you feel unhappy about this, try setting the V-core manually to 1.65v and check what this gives.
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    So 3.3 V x 22 A gives 72.6 W, that could be really a little cutting the edge. Could that cause the board to not respond when setting the "CPU Fast Command" to "Ultra" ?
    Getting a more powerful psu will not likely cure this well documented problem.
    However, this board mostly draws power from the 3.3 & 5v rails. The 12v is mostly used to power HDD, optical and fans. When you consider that 128Mb of ram draws about 8-10w from the 5v rail and you have a total of 1.5Gb that adds up to 96-120W of juice just for the memory alone. This board will beep at you at o/s level when it's running underpowered but my opinion is the same as osnavi's your 3.3v & 5v rails are too low. Also what is combined 3.3v & 5v wattage. What kind of reading do you get on monitoring utilities.
    By the way I have as you can see from my dets below the same board and cpu as you and when I changed from a XP2000 Palomino with PC2100 ram to XP3000 Barton and PC3200, I changed the 'Fast Command' setting from 'Fast' to 'Normal'
    Hope this helps, enjoy the board

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