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I'm wondering if (how?) I'm the only person with this problem...
I generally run with a window just open to my Inbox(-es). That window is 2-columns, message list and message contents. The hidden "Mailboxes" pane has several accounts under Inbox, most/all of which are IMAP servers.
Here's the problem: The column heading for the list of messages reads "Sort by date". However, the message list isn't sorted by date at all. It appears that "Date" may be "date received", but I can't be certain of this. In previous versions of Mail.app, there was a distinction between sorting by date of the message or the date received; in general I prefer the former. But that doesn't seem to account for this:
The options for this are Sorted by: Date, Ascending.
The interesting aspect of this is that if I choose one particular Inbox (i.e., the inbox from any account, rather than the "consolidated" listing), messages are sorted properly. It's only when I have the view of all the inboxes (that is, the "Inbox" itself is selected, rather than any of the accounts under it) that sorting goes awry.
I do have lots of rules defined, moving certain messages from one place to another, and applying colors. But this hadn't previously (nor would I expect it to) cause this issue.
Does anyone else have this problem, or any ideas on how to fix it?

Apparently, I was either the only person to have an issue with this, or the only one bothered enough to write to the group!
I do have a solution, however.
From what I was able to tell, the issue was that the menu items for sorting, including the "Sort by" in the Mail window header bar and the View -> Sort by menu simply displayed "Date" as the option.
Recalling the old trick of using the Option key while selecting a menu item, "Date" changed to "Date Sent". It has not changed back to "Date"; now holding down Option changes it "Date Received", and the menu item continues to read "Date Sent", which is the desired behavior.
Unfortunately, Mail was stuck in a state where both these indications simply said "Date"; I've now apparently changed this and the indicator reads properly (and the sort order is as expected).
I hope if this bugs anyone else this explanation (?) will help.

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