Problems w/ on-board NVidia RAID + PCI RAID on P7N Diamond

Here's the setup and issue.
I'm booting off of the on-board NVidia RAID on my P7N Diamond. It's RAID5 w/ 4 WD 640GB drives. Works fine.
I've recently pulled a NetCell SyncRAID SR5000 PCI RAID card (runs an adapted RAID3) from an old system where it worked fine and was NOT the boot drive...just storage. Plugged it in the one and only PCI slot on my P7N Diamond. Once it's in, the system will no longer boot.
When the PCI RAID card is not installed, the mobo's BIOS boot menu shows "NVIDIA RAID5 1". As soon as I install the PCI RAID card, the NVidia RAID disappears (no longer an option at all) and is replaced by "IDE:Revolution". At that point the system cannot find any bootable source and fails.
I also get an error message "Not Enough Space to Copy PCI Option ROM".
Unfortunately, MSI's tech support is passing the buck on this one. They're saying:
Then sound like the card and the board sata controller are not compatible. If the card is connected it disable the onboard SATA controller. Once the card install the port is enable again. please check with the card manufacture. thanks
I really find this annoying as the card works just fine in other systems. It's having an issue WITH THIS MOTHERBOARD, but they tell me to go to the card manufacturer. The real problem is NetCell went out of business a few years ago, so they're not available to go to.
So, the quick and dirty is the manufacture of the only motherboard I've had a problem with concerning this card won't help, and the card manufacture cannot be reached. I'm hoping someone here may come up with a workaround.
I'm trying to consolidate down to 1 computer, and I specifically purchased a case and power supply with this RAID migration in mind. I'm gunna be PISSED if I can't use a RAID array I spent close to a grand for (a couple years ago)!

MSI continues to blame the chipset or PCI card for the incompatibility (not the motherboard), saying there's nothing they can do.
Does ANYONE have an idea other than setting aside my RAID array?

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Do I also need to load the SATA IDE driver after/before the 2 Raid drivers?
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Code: [Select]
; PE Builder v3 plug-in INF file
; NVIDIA RAID (Windows XP)
; Created by Syar2003
[Version]
Signature= "$Windows NT$"
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[SourceDisksFiles]
nvraid.sys=4,,1
nvatabus.sys=4,,1
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Quote from: dandut on 23-July-05, 07:50:41
If i disable raid, i still get the NV IDE BIOS screen, it just shows a message other than 'detecting array' with a flashing cursor and does exacly the same thing. It just wont get to the next stage.
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I do have the unused SATA ports turned off.
Will try that when I get home.
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