Problems with Helvetica

Hello and thank you for taking time to read over my post and with your eventual assistance rendered for this problem,
I recently purchased a license for Helvetica from Linotype where I received the .otf format of the font. I am running Illustrator CS6 on a Windows 7 machine.
The fonts install perfectly fine and I am able to use 'Helvetica' on Microsoft Office, InDesign, etc; however, when I use the font in Illustrator CS6 I have to use 'Helvetica LT Std' while any .pdf file that uses Helvetica appears as 'Helvetica*'.
Is there anything I can do to remedy this? I know I can manually change the fonts in each file but it seems much easier to just have Illustrator recognize that my Helvetica is the same Helvetica on the original document.
For clarification: 'Helvetica LT Std' is towards the bottom of the font list and is not grouped with my other fonts.
Thank you for your assistance with this,
-William

I've had this problem as i also use suitcase to manage fonts so ive only got open what i need. I ended up dropping all the adobe helvetica and helveltica neue fonts i had into the user fonts folder as i was tired of the conflicts when using such a common font.

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Not really, thanks anyway. I'm already on a later driver than that.
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margin: 0;
padding: 0;
font: italic 24px "Lucida Sans Unicode", "Lucida Grande", sans-serif;
text-align: center;
#navlist li {
margin: 0;
padding:0;
list-style: none;
display: inline;
#navlist li a {padding: 0.75em; text-decoration: none;}
/**link colors**/
#navlist li a:link,
#navlist li a:visited { color: #999; }
/**On mouseover**/
#navlist li a:hover,
#navlist li a:active,
#navlist li a:focus { color: #FFF; text-decoration: underline;
/**End Menu styles**/
#content {
width: 400px;
font-size: small;
margin: 20px auto 0 auto;
text-align: center;
color: #CCC;
#content ul li {margin:0; padding:0;
list-style:none}
/**Rollover Image**/
#content a img {
border:none;
opacity: 0.6;
-ms-filter:"progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Alpha(Opacity=70)";
filter: alpha(opacity=70)}
#content a img:hover,
#content a img:active,
#content a img:focus {opacity: 1.0;
-ms-filter:"progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Alpha(Opacity=100)";
filter: alpha(opacity=100)}
#footer {
border-top: 4px solid #990000;
font-size: x-small;
text-align: left;
margin:0;
padding: 0 0 0 15px
/**RE-USABLE CLASSES**/
.left {text-align:left}
.right {text-align: right}
.center {text-align:center}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="wrapper">

<div id="header">
<h1>Amy Carrier </h1>
</div>

<ul id="navlist">
<li><a href="#">AC</a></li>
<li><a href="#">About</a></li>
<li><a href="#">Gallery</a></li>
<li><a href="#">Contact</a></li>
</ul> 


<div id="content">
<p class="left">Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Aliquam ac dolor velit, sed adipiscing ipsum. </p>
<ul>
<li>details</li>
<li>details</li>
<li>details</li>
</ul>

<a href="http://www.google.com/chrome"><img src="http://dret.net/lectures/web-fall09/img/chrome-logo.png" alt="image" /></a>
</div>

<div id="footer">
<p>@ 2010 Footer text goes here</p>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
Web | Graphics | Print | Media Specialists
http://alt-web.com/
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HT1338 Font Problems with Snow Leopard

I'm having font problems after updating to Snow Leopard. It seems to have problems with spacing the fonts properly and reading some fonts properly in Page and Keynote. Any suggestions of how to fix it?

Dear Kurt,
in bigger companies thinks come slow :-) Actually we are switching from 10.4.11 with Quark 6.52 and FontReserve to 10.6.8 with Adobe CS5 and FontBook.
And as you may guess we're running directly into the HelveticaNeue problem.
We cleaned up the system fonts so that only the absolutly needed are in /Sys/Lib/Fonts/ and all other fonts (from MacOS and our own) are in /Lib/Fonts/ where they are in folders for better handling.
The number of additional fonts were radically stripped down to the REALLY needed (about 70 fonts with their families).
We removed the protected fonts and replaced Helvetica, HelveticaNeue, Times, Symbol and ZapfDingbats with PS Type1 fonts.
Our goal was to have no font conflicts to keep our users save. In addition we put fonts in predefinded collections to switch them on/off with an AppleScript that picks the collection name.
And from here it went fancy: The Apple apps are working fine but external app like Adobe CS5 and MS Office only see the fonts in /Sys/Lib/Fonts/.
When we put the HelveticaNeue.dfont back (no matter if it's in the system or at ~/Lib/Fonts/) the other apps also get all installed fonts. We found out that this works even if the HelveticaNeue.dfont is deactivated.
Unfortunately this brings up two problems:
The HelveticaNeue.dfont can't be put to a font collection without taking the corresponding font from the Type1 font with it, so it's more difficult to handle with the AppleScript (we have to pick the exact single name).
The second is that if something goes wrong and all fonts are switched to active we have a font conflict and the possibility that the dfont is used in documents.
I think I have read all (ok, many :-) of your posts about the Helvetica problem in 10.6 as well as your really great document about font handling in OS X.
But I wasn't able to get it to work.
Do you have the one big hint for me???
Thanks and best regards... Udo

Multiple Problems with website

Hi, I've recently created my second website in Dreamweaver which was a friend who has a bed and breakfast www.snowatthebarn.co.uk
However I have various problems with it:
1. The site looks fine in Safari/Firefox but on some computers which run Internet Explorer the Divs at the top of the page are all jumbled up and the text overlaps. I've posted the html for the index page and the code for the attached external style sheet at the bottom of this list of questions. Does anyone have any idea where I am going wrong? I've also attached a screenshot of what it looks like.
2. I've tried googling the website and when I use certain keywords the site is listed but for some reason there is no blue title to click on - just the url at the bottom - again I've attached a screenshot. Can anyone see anything missing in my code which is causing this?
3.The bed and breakfast/guest house is in a small village called Marshfield in South West England. There are probably only 2 or 3 other guest houses in the village. However when I google 'bed and breakfast marshfield' the site isn't listed until the 4th, 5th or 6th pages (depending on search terms). i have included a list of keywords in my code just after the head tag. Does anyone know why the site is comming down so low in the listings? I don't think he has any links to the site yet but surely the site should come up on the first or second page despite this?
4. Further to the question above - there is a Marshfield in America - a lot of American sites are comming up before the site that I created. Should mine not be given priority for people searching in the UK since it has a co.uk name? I see that the two or three other bed and breakfasts in the village come up first and second when searching for 'bed and breakfast marshfiled'
5.I have put a google map into his website in the 'Directions' page. However, despite listing his business with google maps, there is no pointer on the map. When I log into the google account I created for him and go to 'Maps' it shows his business marked on the map with a pointer but when I search in google there is no pointer. Any ideas what I need to do to get this to work?
Here are the two screenshots:
(The website is the one in the middle)
Here is the html for the .index page:
              SNOW AT THE BARN                 Bed & Breakfast Accommodation
Marshfield near Bath                     01225 892339            07973 382028            The Barn dates from the 18th Century and lies within the village of Marshfield, a designated conservation area, in the county of South Gloucestershire. A family home of many years standing, the Barn is set in an attractive mature garden and offers ample off-street parking. The comfortable bed and breakfast accommodation is to a high standard and the Barn offers a warm welcome and a relaxing environment.
      The village of Marshfield lies on the southern edge of the Cotswolds and is just 6 miles from the Roman city of Bath. From its 12th Century church to its more recent 18th Century High Street, the village proudly displays its architectural heritage based on the old wool and malting industries. Marshfield boasts two fine pubs offering good food, wine and traditional ales and a friendly teashop. Other village amenities include an outstanding village shop, a butchers, newsagents and post office.   Welcome
Home
What's Near
Accommodation
Rates
Reservations
Directions
And here is the attached external stylesheet:
@charset "UTF-8"; body {      background-color: #49602B;      font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;      font-size: 32px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal;      color: #FFF; } /* CSS Document */ #container {      font-size: 14px;      background: #F6F6F6;      width: 955px;      margin-right: auto;      margin-left: auto;      position: relative;      height: 1000px; } #greenarea {      background: #49602B;      position: absolute;      height: 184px;      width: 966px; } #topleft {      position: absolute;      height: 311px;      width: 414px;      left: 50px;      top: 281px;      text-align: left;      font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;      font-size: 14px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal;      color: #000; } #topright {      position: absolute;      height: 311px;      width: 414px;      top: 282px;      left: 493px;      font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;      font-size: 12px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal;      color: #000; } #map_canvas {      position: absolute;      height: 311px;      width: 414px;      left: 493px;      top: 282px; } .bold {      font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;      font-size: 14px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: bold;      color: #000; } #welcome {      font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;      font-size: 31px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal;      height: 35px;      width: 178px;      left: 169px;      top: 278px;      position: absolute;      color: #49602B; } #menu {      position: absolute;      height: 50px;      width: 899px;      left: 27px;      top: 177px;      font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;      font-size: 18px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal;      list-style: none;      color: #49602B; } #drawing {      background: url(images/logo.png);      position: absolute;      height: 172px;      width: 225px; } #snow {      position: absolute;      height: 25px;      width: 307px;      left: 330px;      top: -11px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal; } #bed {      position: absolute;      height: 120px;      width: 340px;      left: 301px;      top: 50px; } #phone {      position: absolute;      height: 42px;      width: 163px;      left: 423px;      top: 125px;      text-align: left;      font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;      font-size: 18px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal;      color: #FFF; } #crest {      position: absolute;      height: 17px;      width: 61px;      left: 446.27px;      top: 40px;      background: url(images/crest3.png); } #container #greenarea #bed h2 {      font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal;      color: #FFF;      text-align: center; } #container #greenarea #bed h1 {      font-size: 18px;      text-align: center; } #menu ul li {      display: inline;      margin-right: 25px;      margin-left: 25px;      list-style: none; } #menu a:hover {      color: #0F0;      text-decoration: none; } #bottomleft {      position: absolute;      height: 311px;      width: 414px;      left: 50px;      top: 618px;      font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;      font-size: 14px;      font-style: normal;      font-weight: normal;      color: #000; } #bottomright {      position: absolute;      height: 311px;      width: 414px;      left: 491px;      top: 618px; } #menu a:visited {      color: #030;      text-decoration: none; } #menu a:link {      text-decoration: none;      color: #49602B; }

Harry184297 wrote:
Hi, I've recently created my second website in Dreamweaver which was a friend who has a bed and breakfast www.snowatthebarn.co.uk
However I have various problems with it:
1. The site looks fine in Safari/Firefox but on some computers which run Internet Explorer the Divs at the top of the page are all jumbled up and the text overlaps. I've posted the html for the index page and the code for the attached external style sheet at the bottom of this list of questions. Does anyone have any idea where I am going wrong? I've also attached a screenshot of what it looks like.
On man phew!. Your using completely the incorrect technique to build websites, absolutely positioned <divs>. Bad! bad! bad!
I can only offer a sticking plaster patch up for you to unjumble the text at the top of the page in IE.
Step 1:
First copy all the css below and paste it into a new css document and save it to your site folder as global.css (do not overwrite your existing css style file at this stage just in case you want to revert back to it)
body {
    background-color: #49602B;
    font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-size: 32px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    color: #FFF;
/* CSS Document */
#container {
    font-size: 14px;
    background: #F6F6F6;
    width: 955px;
    margin-right: auto;
    margin-left: auto;
    position: relative;
    height: 1000px;
#greenarea {
    background: #49602B;
    position: relative;
    height: 184px;
    width: 966px;
#topleft {
    position: absolute;
    height: 311px;
    width: 414px;
    left: 50px;
    top: 281px;
    text-align: left;
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size: 14px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    color: #000;
#topright {
    position: absolute;
    height: 311px;
    width: 414px;
    top: 282px;
    left: 493px;
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size: 12px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    color: #000;
#map_canvas {
    position: absolute;
    height: 311px;
    width: 414px;
    left: 493px;
    top: 282px;
.bold {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size: 14px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: bold;
    color: #000;
#welcome {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size: 31px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    height: 35px;
    width: 178px;
    left: 169px;
    top: 278px;
    position: absolute;
    color: #49602B;
#drawing {
    background: url(images/logo.png);
    position: absolute;
    height: 172px;
    width: 225px;
#snow {
position: absolute;
width: 400px;
left: 299px;
font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal;
#snow h1 {
margin: 0;
padding: 10px 0 0 0;
font-size: 30px;
text-align: center;
#bed {
    position: absolute;
    height: 60px;
    width: 340px;
    left: 330px;
    top: 75px;
#bed h1 {
font-size: 18px;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
text-align: center;
#phone {
    position: absolute;
    height: 42px;
    width: 340px;
    left: 330px;
    top: 125px;
    text-align: center;
    font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-size: 18px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    color: #FFF;
#crest {
    position: absolute;
    height: 17px;
    width: 61px;
    left: 470px;
    top: 50px;
    background: url(images/crest3.png);
#container #greenarea #bed h2 {
    font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    color: #FFF;
    text-align: center;
#bottomleft {
    position: absolute;
    height: 311px;
    width: 414px;
    left: 50px;
    top: 618px;
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size: 14px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    color: #000;
#bottomright {
    position: absolute;
    height: 311px;
    width: 414px;
    left: 491px;
    top: 618px;
#menu {
    position: absolute;
    height: 50px;
    width: 899px;
    left: 27px;
    top: 195px;
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-size: 18px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    list-style: none;
    color: #49602B;
#menu ul {
     margin: 0;
     padding: 0;
#menu li {
    display: inline;
     margin: 0 25px;
     padding: 0;
    list-style: none;
#menu a:hover {
    color: #0F0;
    text-decoration: none;
#menu a:visited {
    color: #030;
    text-decoration: none;
#menu a:link {
    text-decoration: none;
    color: #49602B;
Step 2:
Next copy all the html below and paste into a new Dreamweaver document and save it to your site folder as index_new.html (do not overwrite your existing index.html page at this satge just in case you want to recert back to it)
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<TITLE>-</TITLE>
<META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="bed, breakfast, bath, marshfield, accommodation, hotel, cotswolds, south, gloucestershire, bristol, somerset, guest, house">
<META NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT="Bed and Breakfast in Marshfield near Bath">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="INDEX,FOLLOW">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<title>SNOW AT THE BARN - Bed & Breakfast near Bath</title>
<link href="global.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<style type="text/css">

</style>
<script type="text/javascript">
var _gaq = _gaq || [];
_gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-22281135-1']);
_gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
(function() {
    var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
    ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
    var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
</script></head>
<body>
<div id="container">
<div id="greenarea">
    <div id="drawing"></div>
    <div id="snow">
      <h1>SNOW AT THE BARN</h1>
    </div>
<div id="crest"></div>
    <div id="bed">
      <h1>Bed & Breakfast Accommodation<br />Marshfield near Bath</h1>
    </div>
    <div id="phone">01225 892339<br />07973 382028 </div>
</div>
<div id="topleft">
    <p> </p>
    <p>The Barn dates from the 18th Century and lies within the village of Marshfield, a designated conservation area, in the county of South Gloucestershire. A family home of many years standing, the Barn is set in an attractive mature garden and offers ample off-street parking. The comfortable bed and breakfast accommodation is to a high standard and the Barn offers a warm welcome and a relaxing environment.<br />
      <br />
      The village of Marshfield lies on the southern edge of the Cotswolds and is just 6 miles from the Roman city of Bath. From its 12th Century church to its more recent 18th Century High Street, the village proudly displays its architectural heritage based on the old wool and malting industries. Marshfield boasts two fine pubs offering good food, wine and traditional ales and a friendly teashop. Other village amenities include an outstanding village shop, a butchers, newsagents and post office.</p>
</div>
<div id="topright"><img src="images/Marshfield-July-2006-032.jpg" width="414" height="311" alt="Snow at the Barn" /></div>
<div id="welcome">Welcome</div>
<div id="menu">
    <ul>
      <li><a href="index.html">Home</a></li>
      <li><a href="whatsnear.html">What's Near</a></li>
      <li><a href="accommodation.html">Accommodation</a></li>
      <li><a href="rates.html">Rates</a></li>
      <li><a href="reservations.html">Reservations</a></li>
      <li><a href="directions.html">Directions</a></li>
    </ul>
</div>
<div id="bottomleft"><img src="images/Marshfield-July-2006-042.jpg" width="414" height="311" alt="Garden" /></div>
<div id="bottomright"><img src="images/Marshfield-July-2006-036.jpg" width="414" height="311" /></div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Thats it! If you run that in IE now all the text at the top should be unjumbled.
Remember this is a 'get out of jail free card' solution. Please do not use absolute positioning UNLESS you know what you are doing otherwise it will create many hours of frustration for you.

Problem with PHP, CSS & Code Navigator in CS4

Hi,
I've got al little problem with code navigator. To show the problem, I created this 3 files:
test1.html
The CSS-Definition is defined static, with simple HTML.
<html>
<head>
     <style type="text/css">
          @import "test.css";
     </style>
</head>
<body>
      <p>Hello World</p>
</body>
</html>
test2.php
The CSS-Definition is defined dynamic, with PHP-Code.
<html>
<head>
     <style type="text/css">
          <? echo "@import \"test.css\";\n"; ?>
     </style>
</head>
<body>
      <p>Hello World</p>
</body>
</html>
test.css
The CSS-File which is imported in test1.html and test2.php
p {
     font-size:20px;
The Problem in Dreamweaver CS4
When opening the test.html - File in Dreamweaver CS4, I can easily see the CSS-Definition of the <p>-Tag in Code Navigator. To edit these definition I can simple open the test.css by clicking on the definition in Code navigator. For a complex webpage this is a greate feature. Sadly, this does not work, when I open the test2.php. Although when going to Live View and selecting the <p>-Tag I can see the CSS-Definition and the file in which it is defined in Code Navigator. But by clicking on the definition the test.css DOES NOT OPEN!
Has anybody a solution? Because many of our projects have dynamic CSS-Definitions, it would be a shame, if this would not work.
Tanks for help! :-)

I've done some testing, which might point you in the direction of an interim solution.
This is the code for related_files.php:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Related files test</title>
<?php include('include.css'); ?>
</head>
<body>
<p>This is a paragraph.</p>
</body>
</html>
This is the code for include.css:
<style type="text/css">
p {
     font-family:"Trebuchet MS", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
     color:#F00;
</style>
Note that the include file contains the opening and closing style tags.
By including your styles like this in a PHP include file, Dreamweaver applies the CSS in Design view (you don't need to turn on Live View). Holding down the Alt key while clicking in Design view brings up the Code Navigator with all the details of the CSS. The one missing link in the chain is that clicking the style selector in the Code Navigator does not open the CSS file. However...
The file that contains the CSS is listed in the Related Files toolbar, so you can edit it in Split view, and see the results in Design view in exactly the same way as with an HTML page and ordinary style sheet.
As I say, not the full solution that you wanted, but it might be something worth experimenting with.

Problem with SpryMenuBarHorizontal on IE any version

I have a problem with SpryMenuBarHorizontal, you do not see the SubMenu on IE.
It's ok on Firefox, Safari, Opera, but on any version of IE don't work.
I tried to fix the CSS, but nothing.
Thank you for your help
Margherita

This is the URL http://www.datapress.it/hemodec/index.html
and this is the CSS. Thank you for the help
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 100%;
cursor: default;
padding: 0;
margin: 0;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
padding: 0px;
z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 15px;
position: relative;
cursor: pointer;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-style: normal;
line-height: normal;
font-weight: bold;
text-decoration: none;
top: 5px;
padding: 0px;
float: left;
width: 15em;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 100%;
z-index: 1020;
cursor: default;
width: 223px;
position: absolute;
left: -1000em;
border-bottom-width: thin;
border-bottom-style: dotted;
border-bottom-color: #FFF;
top: 25px;
height: 85px;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
left: 22px;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
width: 8.2em;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
position: absolute;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
left: auto;
top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
display: block;
cursor: pointer;
color: #7C4C25;
text-decoration: none;
padding-top: 0.5em;
padding-right: 0.75em;
padding-bottom: 0.5em;
padding-left: 0.75em;
width: 120px;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
color: #F90;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
color: #F90;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu1
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
top: 5px;
padding-left: 60px;
width: 200px;
text-align: left;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu2 {
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
padding-left: 130px;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu3 {
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
margin-left: 120px;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu4 {
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
margin-left: 150px;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
background-image: url(../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
background-color: #EDE8DF;
width: 213px;
border-bottom-width: medium;
border-bottom-style: double;
border-bottom-color: #FFF;
margin-right: 15px;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: lighter;
font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal;
line-height: normal;
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none;
text-decoration: none;
z-index: auto;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu2 {
background-image: url(../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
background-color: #EDE8DF;
width: 204px;
border-bottom-width: medium;
border-bottom-style: double;
border-bottom-color: #FFF;
margin-left: 17px;
padding-left: 20px;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal;
line-height: normal;
font-weight: lighter;
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none;
text-decoration: none;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu3 {
background-image: url(../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
background-color: #EDE8DF;
width: 204px;
border-bottom-width: medium;
border-bottom-style: double;
border-bottom-color: #FFF;
margin-left: 34px;
padding-left: 20px;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal;
line-height: normal;
font-weight: lighter;
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none;
text-decoration: none;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu4 {
background-image: url(../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
background-color: #EDE8DF;
width: 213px;
border-bottom-width: medium;
border-bottom-style: double;
margin-left: 52px;
left: 80px;
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal;
line-height: normal;
font-weight: lighter;
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none;
text-decoration: none;
border-bottom-color: #FFF;
#ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu a:hover{
background-position:center right;
padding-right:40px;
color: #F90;
#ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu a.selezionato{
background-color:#D4CCB3;
background-position:bottom right;
padding-right:40px;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
background-image: url(../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
top: 145px;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
background-image: url(../../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
position: absolute;
z-index: 1010;
filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
display: inline;
f\loat: left;
background: #FFF;

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