Problems with MSI 648 Max

I have problems with my sons MSI 648 Max Mainboard, everything seems to be alhright, but when I upgraded the BIOS version to the lastest. the computer starts to hang. I have also but a new harddisk in to the computer an some more RAM. I think the problem begin in the powersupply, its just a 250 W powersupply to the computer, and we have av 1.8 GHz Celeron. Have anything had this problem, or is it something I should think about after the upgrade of the BIOS?.

I know that 250 watt is to small, but the computer have function great in 2 months. But after i have taking out the old harddisk and but in a new bigger one, and placed some more RAM (256). After that I installed Windows XP on the new harddisk, but after that I upgraded my BIOS version to 1.4. After the upgrade of the BIOS the computer starts to freeze after a while. I tried to reinstall XP but the computer freeze under the installation. I have tried to switch back to older BIOS version, but I cant make it work. I have really hard to believe that the powersupply is the reason why the compter freeze.

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    Quote
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