Problems with msi gf gts450 1gb ddr3 pcie (n450gts-md1gd3)

Hello!
I just bought msi gf gts450 1gb ddr3 pcie (n450gts-md1gd3). And now i have some problems, when i start play some game( like Skyrim or Dungeon siege 3), after about a minute my pc freezes (black screen, and sound freezes). I look up in my event log and there is: power kernel problem event 41 .
I looked in google for some information, but did not find any solution for me (found some solutions, but did not work for me). Before i bought new graphic card, everything was o.k. Some months ago i had Ge Force 9600GT and everything was still o.k.
MY PC:
Win 7 32 bit
CPU: Amd phenom II x2 550 be  3.1 Ghz
PSU: FSP 400-60APN (400 w)
12v1-17A; 12V2-17A; 3.3V-24A 5V-15A
Motherboard: GA-MA78GM-S2H (gigabyte)
RAM: 4 Gb (2Gb x 2)

Quote from: flobelix on 29-July-12, 22:02:00
All are low and lowest quality split rail psus only one 1A stronger per rail than your current one = no improvement.
Look for a psu with one +12v rail with at least 24A or better.
but how can i know, is it single rail??? 
is that only one 12v  and no another 12V/2?

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