Problems with MSI P31 Neo mobo

Hello all,
I just received my new MSI P31 Neo motherboard today and have spent nearly the whole day trying to get it to work.
My problem is that when you turn the system on about 4/5 times there is no graphics displayed what so ever. When the graphics do come on and you can go through the BIOS it quite often jams. If occasionally you do get past that, when the Windows XP disc starts to load the files for the installer, it Jams and you need to restart, restarting this long process.
My CPU is supposed to be supported, it's a 3.6ghz Intel Pentium 4 chip. I am using 4 x Samsung Original 1024MB DDR2 PC5300 RAM though it only shows 2gb of it in the BIOS. The graphics card is a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 512MB PCI-E.
Can anyone tell me how to get this mobo to work? Things to try? Otherwise I think I will just have to send it back...
techie5487

Quote from: techie5487 on 24-January-08, 07:34:41
UPDATE:
I tried booting with 2 RAM Chips and it works great! This seemed to be the problem.
The ram IS double sided which would explain it.
If you are wanting some more system specs, just ask and I will try and get the most I can.
Del UK:
If I could run 4gb it would be great but I cannot seem to find the SPD in bios. My BIOS is American Megatrends Inc. v02.61 so it would be great if you could help me with that!
If all else fails I might either just settle with 2GB or buy some new RAM chips. Can anyone please tell me some Ram chips which would be able to give this mobo 4GB?
Thanks
techie5487
Done
2 Gb in
Into bios
SPD off
Set to 5-5-5-15
Save settings
Power off
Install extra 2 x 1Gb modules into slots 2 & 4
Power system up
4Gb detected................. slow post not fast
3.25Gb checked
1 second delay
4096Mb
3.25Gb extend
768Mb in +4Gb
System sees 3.25Gb

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I can't get network to work properly with this MSI-mobo's integrated lan chip.
When I boot from Arch install cd r8169-module is loaded and I can get ip via dhcp. Strange thing is that I can access http but not ftp. When I change transfermode to passive from links ftp works. But during Arch install setup I can't access the repos.
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Quote from: techie5487 on 24-January-08, 07:34:41
UPDATE:
I tried booting with 2 RAM Chips and it works great! This seemed to be the problem.
The ram IS double sided which would explain it.
If you are wanting some more system specs, just ask and I will try and get the most I can.
Del UK:
If I could run 4gb it would be great but I cannot seem to find the SPD in bios. My BIOS is American Megatrends Inc. v02.61 so it would be great if you could help me with that!
If all else fails I might either just settle with 2GB or buy some new RAM chips. Can anyone please tell me some Ram chips which would be able to give this mobo 4GB?
Thanks
techie5487
Done
2 Gb in
Into bios
SPD off
Set to 5-5-5-15
Save settings
Power off
Install extra 2 x 1Gb modules into slots 2 & 4
Power system up
4Gb detected................. slow post not fast
3.25Gb checked
1 second delay
4096Mb
3.25Gb extend
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System sees 3.25Gb

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