Problems with reverse telecine in Cinema tools

I am trying to reverse telecine some 24p footage I shot on a panasonic dvx. I have captured several tapes of footage in FCP 7 (as 29.97 footage to get the full data stream), then I have been sending clips to cinema tools to be reverse telecined, then bringing them back into FCP and editing on a 23.98 timeline. So far, I have used this workflow with three of my tapes and they all look fine in the end, but with one tape in particular I took all of the same steps but am having problems. When I bring clips from that tape into cinema tools and select "reverse telecine" it seems as if Cinema Tools is working and processing the footage, but at the very end the window with that clip suddenly disappears and no .rev file of the footage is created. Cinema tools remains open, only that window with the footage that was being processed is gone. I have tried recapturing the footage, renaming it, and double-checking my capture settings in FCP but have yet to figure out why these clips from this tape in particular will not be reverse telecined. Any suggestions about what I could be doing wrong?

I am almost positive I shot them the exact way, although the scene file dial on the dvx is pretty easily changed, so maybe if I bumped it during filming...
So to check, I looked at the footage before it was reverse telecined on an external moniter and it looks the same as all my other footage--with about 2 interlaced frames for every five frames. Is there another way I could check?
I'll try your compressor idea and see if that will remove the 3:2 pulldown! Thanks for the advice!

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    I read an article that was on Ken Stones site. It said that, basically you CAN'T
    take a clip that is at 29.97 and has 3:2 pulldown in it, and get it to actual 24 progressive frames? Is this true? Has ANYONE out there actually removed pulldown CORRECTLY with footage shot at 24, then transferred to 29.97?
    I've tried all options with Cinema Tools Reverse Telecine, and I always wind up with some interlacing.
    My QT clip has a 3:2 cadence, one can frame through it and see this.
    Am I missing something here? Does anyone know a procedure that can get me to 24 progressive frames. Is there a 3rd party piece of software out there?
    Any relies appreciated.
    G5 2.3 early   Mac OS X (10.4.7)   Cinema Tools V 3.1.1
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    Well then, that is your problem. Those aren't reverse telecin-able. What are reversable are DV tapes that you captured at 29.97...in the DV/NTSC codec.
    Are you working with Digital Intermediates? Or footage telecined to tape?
    Typical Telecine to Tape workflow is:
    Telecine to DVCAM
    Lab provides DVCAM and Flex file to you.
    Open Cinema Tools. Import Flex file and export batch Capture list.
    Import batch capture list into FCP.
    Batch Capture the DV footage.
    Reverse telecine the footage with Cinema Tools.
    Edit.
    What exactly are you doing? Where did these files come from? What is your workflow?
    Shane

  • Reverse Telecine Question (Cinema Tools)

    Dear board members,
    I have footage that was shot with Panasonic AG-HVX200 in 1080i60 (29.97fps), but with 24p function with a 2:3 pulldown. When I ingest it in FCP through Log and Transfer this footage (for some peculiar reason) shows up as 1080p30. I also need to remove pulldown to make it 24 (23,98) FPS.
    My workaround is as follows:
    1) I export these files from FCP as DVCPRO HD 1080i60 QT files.
    2) then I send these new "masters" to Cinema Tools, where I do Reverse Telecine process.
    The results looks fine, but I just want to double-check my settings in Cinema Tools, because the batch for this job contains thousands of clips and there is no room for mistake.
    Reverse Telecine in Cinema Tools settings:
    Capture Mode:
    Field 1 - Field 2
    Fields:
    AA
    File:
    New (smaller)
    Frames:
    Conform to: 23.98 FPS
    Standard Upper/Lower: Checked
    Thank you very much for your time and (hopefully) helpful comments.
    Regards,
    Tim

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  • Reverse Telecine in Cinema Tools

    My 24p fcp project is finished and I need to reverse telecine it to get rid of the ugly interlacing. How do I do this?
    I've tried importing the movie into Cinema Tools and it keeps crashing. When I import the whole thing as a single clip (QT Movie), the Reverse Telecine button isn't available.
    Also, why can't I import an mpeg-2 clip?
    I'm using Cinema Tools 2.2, in case this has something to do with it.
    Thanks in advance.

    Oh, and Mr. Gilman was saying that there will be interlacing no matter what if it's on DVD or Beta? Why is this?
    It's what I was trying to tell you when I said If tape, you need the pulldown anyway. If DVD, the pulldown would be added by the player.
    You have to understand where the interlacing is coming from. It is coming from the pulldown inserted to bring the fps from 24 to 30...
    Google reveals these Pulldown explanation pages:
    http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/#24pRecording
    http://home.aol.com/ajaynejr/pulldown.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p
    http://www.zerocut.com/tech/pulldown.html
    http://www.denecke.com/24pinfo.htm
    here's a visual representation of 24P with pulldown added to be recorded on a 29.97 tape (this is how all feature films are broadcast on NTSC)
    You can see from this image that two frames BC and CD are interlaced - that is, they are made up of two fields taken from different frames. When a DVD has 24fps material on it, the DVD player automatically inserts this pulldown to bring it up to 30 fps so it can be shown on a regular TV.
    Now. I believe your problem may stem from an incorrect field order, but first I want to ask - When you created your export of your movie that you fed into DVDSP to make your DVD, did you try importing it into FCP and playing it back on your TV. Did it look okay then?
    Patrick

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    I'm preparing to edit a feature film shot on S16mm. The film was telecined to HDCAM SR at 23.98 for the online. Than down-converted to DVCAM at 29.97 for the offline. I imported the flex files into FCP and captured a bin. Than ran the batch reverse telecine following all instructions in Cinema Tools manual. Clips were converted to 23.98, but when played in FCP strobe or flicker. I cannot for the life of me figure out why. The A-Frames hit on 0's and 5's and that's what all the clips start at.
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    I see you're on FCP5... if you're about to bust into a feature edit you really might want to move up to FCP6. It's a bit more mature all around.
    We just did a Super35mm project (offline in ProRes, and then a 2K DPX-based online) in FCP6, albeit with a slightly different workflow.
    I assume you did the HDCAM SR to DVCAM downconversion because you didn't have an HDCAM SR deck and/or HD-SDI input mechanism for the system you're editing on, but you did have a firewire DVCAM deck or something similar.
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    Also, if you're outputting 23.98 video to an external monitor, does that monitor support that output format? Or are you having telecine frames inserted during playback?
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    <clip>
    2958 INFO [main] jdbc.Schema - Found existing table "Kirja" for schema
    "null".
    3002 INFO [main] jdbc.Schema - Found existing table "Kustantaja" for
    schema "n
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    <clip>
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    `Asiakas_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Nimi1` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Nimi2` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `KatuOsoite` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Postiosoite` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Email` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Puhelin` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Fax` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Salasana` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `ExtranetTunnus` varchar(50) default NULL,
    PRIMARY KEY (`Asiakas_id`),
    KEY `Asiakas_id` (`Asiakas_id`)
    ) TYPE=InnoDB;
    # Host: localhost
    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Kirja'
    # CREATE TABLE `Kirja` (
    `Kirja_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Kustantaja_id` int(11) default NULL,
    `Nimi` varchar(60) default NULL,
    `Nimi2` varchar(60) default NULL,
    `ISBN` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Kieli` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Kansi_URL` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Sisalto_URL` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Tukkuhinta` decimal(10,2) default NULL,
    `Kuluttajahinta` decimal(10,2) default NULL,
    `Varastokpl` int(11) default NULL,
    PRIMARY KEY (`Kirja_id`),
    KEY `Kirja_id` (`Kirja_id`),
    KEY `Kustantaja_id` (`Kustantaja_id`),
    FOREIGN KEY (`Kustantaja_id`) REFERENCES `kirjakauppa.Kustantaja`
    (`Kustantaja_id`)
    ) TYPE=InnoDB;
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    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Kirjailija'
    # CREATE TABLE `Kirjailija` (
    `Kirjailija_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Sukunimi` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Etunimi` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Maa` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Kirjailija_URL` varchar(50) default NULL,
    PRIMARY KEY (`Kirjailija_id`),
    KEY `Kirjailija_id` (`Kirjailija_id`)
    ) TYPE=InnoDB;
    # Host: localhost
    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Kirjoittaja'
    # CREATE TABLE `Kirjoittaja` (
    `Kirjoittaja_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Kirjailija_id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
    `Kirja_id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
    PRIMARY KEY (`Kirjoittaja_id`),
    KEY `Kirjailija_id` (`Kirjailija_id`),
    KEY `Kirja_id` (`Kirja_id`),
    FOREIGN KEY (`Kirjailija_id`) REFERENCES `kirjakauppa.Kirjailija`
    (`Kirjailija_id`),
    FOREIGN KEY (`Kirja_id`) REFERENCES `kirjakauppa.Kirja` (`Kirja_id`)
    ) TYPE=InnoDB;
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    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Koodi'
    # CREATE TABLE `Koodi` (
    `Koodi_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Koodi` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Tyyppi` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Arvo` varchar(50) default NULL,
    PRIMARY KEY (`Koodi_id`)
    ) TYPE=InnoDB;
    # Host: localhost
    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Kustantaja'
    # CREATE TABLE `Kustantaja` (
    `Kustantaja_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Nimi` varchar(80) default NULL,
    `Maa` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Kustantaja_URL` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `KirjaLkm` int(11) default NULL,
    PRIMARY KEY (`Kustantaja_id`),
    KEY `Kustantaja_id` (`Kustantaja_id`)
    ) TYPE=InnoDB;
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    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Luokittelu'
    # CREATE TABLE `Luokittelu` (
    `Luokittelu_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Luokka_id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
    `Kirja_id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
    PRIMARY KEY (`Luokittelu_id`),
    KEY `Luokka_id` (`Luokka_id`),
    KEY `Kirja_id` (`Kirja_id`),
    FOREIGN KEY (`Luokka_id`) REFERENCES `kirjakauppa.Luokka` (`Luokka_id`),
    FOREIGN KEY (`Kirja_id`) REFERENCES `kirjakauppa.Kirja` (`Kirja_id`)
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    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Luokka'
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    `Luokka_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Luokka` varchar(50) default NULL,
    PRIMARY KEY (`Luokka_id`),
    KEY `Luokka_id` (`Luokka_id`)
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    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Myyja'
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    `Myyja_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Myyja` varchar(50) default NULL,
    `Myyja_URL` varchar(50) default NULL,
    PRIMARY KEY (`Myyja_id`),
    KEY `Myyja_id` (`Myyja_id`)
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    # Database: kirjakauppa
    # Table: 'Tilaus'
    # CREATE TABLE `Tilaus` (
    `Tilaus_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Asiakas_id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
    `Myyja_id` int(11) default NULL,
    `TilausPvm` timestamp(14) NOT NULL,
    `EnsimmToimitusPvm` timestamp(14) NOT NULL,
    `ViimToimitusPvm` timestamp(14) NOT NULL,
    `Tila` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
    `Mk` decimal(10,2) default NULL,
    PRIMARY KEY (`Tilaus_id`),
    KEY `Asiakas_id` (`Asiakas_id`),
    KEY `Myyja_id` (`Myyja_id`),
    KEY `Tilaus_id` (`Tilaus_id`),
    FOREIGN KEY (`Asiakas_id`) REFERENCES `kirjakauppa.Asiakas`
    (`Asiakas_id`),
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    # Database: kirjakauppa
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    `TilausRivi_id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
    `Tilaus_id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
    `Kirja_id` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
    `TilausLkm` int(11) default NULL,
    `Ahinta` decimal(10,2) default NULL,
    `Alepros` float default NULL,
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    `ToimitettuLkm` int(11) default NULL,
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    `ViimToimitusPvm` timestamp(14) NOT NULL,
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    KEY `Tilaus_id` (`Tilaus_id`),
    KEY `Kirja_id` (`Kirja_id`),
    FOREIGN KEY (`Tilaus_id`) REFERENCES `kirjakauppa.Tilaus` (`Tilaus_id`),
    FOREIGN KEY (`Kirja_id`) REFERENCES `kirjakauppa.Kirja` (`Kirja_id`)
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    </clip>
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    <clip>
    Exception in thread "main" javax.jdo.JDOFatalInternalException:
    java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: You are attempting to link to a primary
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