Probmels with master page

Hi,
I have a publication with master page background picture. Problem is that I don't want to have this picture on the cover of publication but only on the rest of the pages. How do I delete that background only from the cover?
Thanks.

P Spier wrote:
You lost me here, Ken. Are you saying to override all master items?
No, another typo, sorry. I meant to write "Allow Master Item Overrides". Somehow the "ow" didn't make it in. First you have to allow the object to be overridden, then you override it.
Incidentally, I noticed that all master page objects (at least in my installation) seem to be disallowed by default (in that I can't override them from a local page), but I don't actually have to explicitly allow them to override. All I have to do is right click on the object on the master page and "Allow Master Item Overrides" is already checked. Strange, but not a real problem.
The assertion that cover must be a separate document also is, I think, a little off-target.
A *full cover* must be a separate document. You're completely right that a separate front or back cover can be set inside the document. I probably should have written "full cover with spine" to be absolutely clear.
Ken Benson

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Thanks Al, you've been a busy ID user over the years. Me, I've only been using it for a couple years and I always seem to learn something new every day. Thanks for your help, and I'll continue to read further into the threads. There's always more than one way to skin a cat, we all know that, so there are multiple ways to fix the problem at hand. Some of my spreads hold large photos that actually go right through the spine of the spread, and yet the two pages of the spread can actually have 2 different master pages applied. So, I've got to figure out which way is best..whether its moving the master page items away from the spine or if splitting up the pages is better (not exactly sure how that will work yet with large spread photos). I'll look into it more later, when I have more time. Right now I'm on deadline (monthly magazine), and for a quick and easy fix, I can switch master pages off and just copy the master items over to each page spread where I need them.
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Using InDesign CS 5.5 for Windows
Recently upgraded from InDesign CS (the really old one from 2003). I did save a copy of all my old version files and kept the old ID installed just in case (after reading all the horror stories on here).
In my old version of ID, I created a book made up of about 70 documents. Some of these documents are one page, others have multiple pages. In the multiple page documents, I used the "insert ... current page number" character (or whatever the command was in the old version) on a master page, and formatted it to read, for example: Page 1 of 17, Page 2 of 17, Page 3 of 17, etc. When I exported my book to a pdf, it worked fine. (I do not want/have consecutive page numbers throughout the book, only in individual documents. By this I mean my entire book is about 280 pages, but not all of these 280 pages are numbered, just the groups of pages from these multi-page documents. It doesn't read page 1 through 280.)
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Mr. Spier
Right after I posted my question, I saw a post from last year where somebody had similar problems. (I cringed because I spent almost 3 days researching this problem and never ran across that post; thanks for not scolding me for posting a semi re-run.) I decided to try one of the easier solutions: I opened the problem document from the book panel, went to the master page and deleted the text box containing the page number, copied the page number box from a document that worked correctly, and pasted it into the problem document. Saved that doc, closed, saved book, exported to pdf, and it worked!! The page number problem was fixed. I went back and did the same thing for the other problem documents and they all number correctly now.
Probably not the best way, but for now this will fix it; I may have to do it again next time I add to the book. Although I didn't follow your instructions, I'll mark this as answered since it's working now. If it keeps giving me problems, I'll try the .inx export/new book route.
thanks for your time
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I'm using Adobe 7.0 LiveDesign to create a static fillable PDF. I have imported a word doc. to create the PDF. Now, I want to add text fields to some pages but not all. i'm trying to navigate the Master page ,but can't seem to format it so that if I place a text field on page 1 and want that text field to repeat on pages 13, 26, etc. Does anyone know a good master page tutorial site ..Help this is due by 5pm est
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Not a problem at all
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I started updating a file I created several years ago in InDesign CS3. I am currently running CS5.
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The rule on Master A starts at the centre spine EXACTLY. If I move the rule on the right-hand page slight out from the centre, the rule won't show up.
I have included some screenshots to illustrate the problem. I'd appreciate any help! Thanks!
Master A screenshot
Master D screenshot
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Thanks again for your response Peter.
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Your question is a good one. I was taught to always open up a blank In Design file, then import the master pages, so as to not accidentally re-save over the original master pages. We use the master pages as templates for projects we work on daily. It would seem easier to just open up the master pages, save as, then start working, which is what she's been doing for the time being. We do have back ups of our master pages. Just we were trained on one process, and it's challenging to break up or change that already inherent process.
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Hi johnjohn123,
1. I would definitely make a copy of the EnterpriseWiki.aspx page layout and make changes to that. You can then set your pages to use your custom page layout. Typically, I provision these via Visual Studio and a module for uploading them to the SharePoint
master page gallery.
2. For the master page, the html version is new to 2013 and is meant to simplify branding, however, it's not required. You can still work within master pages and provision those via features if you'd like. The key is to create your own master page and never
modify the default.
If you need code samples for any of the above, let me know and I can supply it.
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Problem with master page

Can anyone help me? I'm under the impression that if I change a text box on my master page A all the other text boxes on the other pages marked A will similarly change. Similarly, the layers on the master page should be reflected on the other pages.
Except they aren't.
I had to go through all my double page spreads to change the size of the text boxes, and cannot get the layer order on my master page to be reflected on the other pages.
Any ideas?
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Sorry for taking so long to get back to you today -- I'm trying to repair windows on my house at the same time as I do forum stuff, and I'm racing the weather.
As near as I can tell you aren't actually using any of the master objects on Master A except the page markers, and you've detached that on page 3 and overridden on another page to bring them in front of the background (which is not in the frame from the master page).
Here is what I would do:
First add margin and column guides to the master page, and a bleed to the document to get a bleed guide for your background. Your margin and column guides should be set so they enclose the two rectangles you drew to hold the text. Delete the rectangles for the text. You don't need them and they'll probably continue to cause trouble. If you need to resize the text frames, enable Layout Adjustment, then change the margin and column guides on the master page. Text frames snapped to the guides will resize to match the new guides.
I'd get rid of the rectangle for the background image, too, unless you plan on putting a background on every page. It's also unnecessary, and annoying, for use on only a few pages. Add a new layer and move the page numbers up onto that so they will appear in front of any background images.
If you want to Place text, you can autoflow without the master frames (but if you really want master frames, make them text frames, not rectangles, and thread them on the master pages from left to right). ID will create a frame the width of the column guides where you click, and it will extend downward to the bottom margin guide from the place where you click. If you hold Shift to autoflow, the additional threaded frames will fill the columns from top margin to bottom margin.
If you want to Paste text, draw the first frame, then paste. Pick up the overset and auto-flow into the next column.

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Everytime I copy pages from one ID CS3 doc to another, it re-applies the master page objects!!

Please Help,
This is a topic I would really like to get to the bottom of.
We have InDesign CS3 templates for creating our reports.
These templates contain around 10 different master pages with grey placeholder image boxes and text boxes with dummy text.
When we copy pages from one ID document to another, all the master page objects that were originally assigned to the pages are re-applied!!
Resulting in lots of grey dummy boxes and text boxes re-appearing on top of the page items!!
It's so annoying because we always customise the pages once we've pulled down master pages to work on, so when we copy pages across to other documents we have to apply the blank master to be able to kick out all the master objects easily. Then we need to add the page numbers and footers back onto the blank master page.
My question is, is there a way to switch this off, so when I move or copy pages from one document to another, nothing happens relating to master page objects, the pages simply just copy across as they are?
Please help! If not I may have to ask an external developer to write a script to fix this, it drives 900 of us crazy!
thanks in advance for any help.
Or am I just being ridiculous and not actually realising you can switch this off, doh!
G

Just a bit of further clarification on this issue (very few people really understand what's going on with master pages and overridden master page items):
When you override a master page item, the object is moved to a local page, but a connection is maintained with the original master page item. This a) allows for the override to be removed (and return the object to its original state). This also, b) allows for changes made to the original master page item (other than the changes made to the local item from the point that it was overridden) to effect the local item as well.
When the connection to the master page item cannot be maintained, the local item gets disconnected totally from the master page, and becomes a regular, run-of-the-mill page item.
In light of this, there's three ways you can end up with duplicate master items:
Reapplying a master page (or applying a new one). When you reapply a master, all overridden master page items get detached from the master, and the original mster page item appears again in its original state. Most of the time this produces unwanted duplication of objects. To fix up your page, you have two options: a) Delete the master page item, and b) copying the contents of the original to the new master page item. The disadvantage of "a" is that you end up with an item which is totally detached from the master, and changing the item on the master will have no effect on the local item. The disadavantage of "b" is that it's a lot of work...
Moving a page to a different document. When you move a page to a different document which has the same master as the one originally applied, the master in the new doc is applied, and the effects are identical to reapplying a master page (i.e. overridden objects are detached). If the applied master (i.e. a master with the same name) does not exist in the new doc, the master is transferred over to the new doc along with the page, and the connections to the master page are preserved (well, re-created actually...). The workarounds in case #1 apply here as well.
When page sides change in a document, the objects on the facing page appears.
What happens here is a bit confusing, but here's an approximate explanation:
When you apply a master to a page or spread in InDesign, what you are actually doing is applying an entire spread to an individual page. You can thing of a master spread as an overlay (or more precisely: underlay) on the page with a window cut out to the exact page dimensions.
When the page side changes that "window cut-out" shifts to show the master spread items which correspond to the position within the spread of your current page (i.e. recto or verso). All objects which exist outside the window shift out of view (but still exist!).
When an object is overridden, the position of the object is defined by its location on the local page, NOT its position on the master spread. When the page then changes sides, the object remains where it was on the page (even though the object it's connected to on the master spread moves out of the window of view). A corresponding object on the facing page of the master (if it exists) will then show in addition to the overridden one.
Now remember: contrary to the first two cases, both objects are based on master ones: one visible one and one invisible one.
Dealing with this third case requires much more care than the first two.
The obvious way to deal with this would be similar to the first two, but if you remove the local object and transfer the content to the new maste object, the invisible master object on the non-visible page was actually removed, so when the page sides change again, the object will now be connected to the now-invisible master page item, and the correct master page item will be gone!
The "correct" way to deal with this would be to transfer the content to the new master page item and remove overrides (not delete!) on the local item (which will make it disappear, because it moves back to the invisible page). Of course, when page sides change again, it becomes necessary to repeat the entire process.
If the local object gets deleted, then your master spread is missing objects with no visible indicator of the fact. This can lead to confusion when the document might be edited at some later point in time.
I believe that this complicated and un-intuitive behavior of master pages is part of the reason people tend to avoid using master page items. Documents tend to get messed up in really odd ways... It's a real shame, because extensive use of master page items has a lot of potential for streamlining workflows and saving an awful lot of time. This behavior really puts a damper on really using master pages as templates.
Getting master page items to work the way they "should" was a big part of what I was trying to accomplish with AutoFlow Pro... When the master page items are defined as such (i.e. given a unique name), AutoFlow Pro solves all three of the above issues by keeping overridden master page items connected to the master page items on the currently applied master (and when a new master is applied as well!).
(When I have a bit of spare time, I think I'll write this up on my blog with some visuals to make this easier to grasp...)
Harbs

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