Process and forms; Create position

Hi,
I m developing a process for create position. For this, I need to have Orgunit as a leadobject. So when I start the process, i need to select the org unit then only i can able to select the process "Create Position". Is there any way to create a position with out selecting Org. unit ?

You can change the process if you dont want to create it, dont use the standard one then
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/en/43/1d63953fce3566e10000000a11466f/frameset.htm

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Basket #1
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