Process chain developement doubt

Hi,
I am developeing small process chain for loading master data(Delta).
I have already done innitial load of master data in infoobject, now i am developing a process chain to load delta master data. My question is shall i need to use different infopackages than used for initial load OR same infopackages used for initial load can be used for delta load process chain of master data.
please reply.

Hi,
Best practice is to use different infopackages.
But the same InfoPackages can also be uesd in the Process Chain. No harm.
Anup.
Edited by: Anup ShankarBS on May 5, 2008 10:50 AM

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