Process Determination in Rule Designer

Hi,
why is that i am not able to find Approval SubType under Process Determination Type in Rule Designer? I can see only User provisioning and Organization Provisioning under Process Determination Type.

What version of OIM are you on? If 11G then there is no approval process in OIM and hence there should not be any approval determination rule as well.
-Bikash

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When I make a Process Determination/Approval rule, is it possible to use requestee information?
As far as I can see, I just can use requester/requestor information. IHAC that needs to use information (attributes) of the user for whom something is requested.
Any tip?
Carlos

You are correct. If you pre-populate, it will be the requester. The requester would need to manually populate the field during the request with the requestee information. And there is only one form available. You can however, after submission of the request, get the request data, parse the Consolidated Request Data to determine the id's in the request field, and then return appropriate responses to trigger the tasks needed. This will still be a problem in the long run because you can't change the requestee information for each approval task. You're pretty much out of luck on this one.
-Kevin

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iam trying to understand the significance of the "Process determination Rules" tab under resource object is? i understand i can assign rules here which i have defined in the rule builder screen . what i want to know what effect will it have on any reconciliation that will be done for this resource?
thanks

Each resource object is comprised of one (or more) provisioning process and potentially
one (or more) approval process.
The resource object definition serves as a template to be referenced
when the resource is being provisioned to users or organizations. Since the resource
definition may be linked to multiple approval and provisioning processes, Oracle
Identity Manager must know which approval process and provisioning process to
execute when the resource is requested or direct provisioned to users or organizations.
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About the process determine rule

I'd like to have different approval process of requesting resource for different user type, and I know that we can implement it using process determine rule.Everything goes well if the requester is the user himself.But if a manager requests resource for his employees,we can't obtain the employees' info,as we have to use the user type as rule,so all of them have the same approval process.In this circumstances,What should I do in order to have different approval process according their user type ?
Thanks in advance!

As the target user is not known until the request is submitted you will not be able to invoke the approval based on identity type if anyone other than the user requests a resource for the end user.
in your default approval process you can have a task which will check for the identity type of the user and then according insert an approval task in the workflow that is required when the identity type is a specific value.
e.g. if identity type is employee approval by security dept is needed
Have the porcess determination rule that will serve if users place requests for themselves. if others place a request on behalf of the user then the process determination rule will evaluate to false and the default approval associated with the ro will get kicked off. It is in the default approval that you write the above mentioned adp that checks for id type and invokes / injects approvals tasks dynamically into the workflow. check the api's for instantiating an approval task. you will need to have uncheck the set disable insert checkbox on the approval task.

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I tried to create a business rule with Headstart Utilities - Create Business Rule Design Definition (Revision 6.0.0.20) and I got the following errors :
Errors
Message
Combination of Message Prefix and Message Number (SGM-ENG) does not match format AAA-NNNNN.
Activity aborted with ORACLE internal errors.
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I suppose that the utility concatenate the message prefix and the language to build the error message.
Our Oracle Designer version is 6.0.3.9.0, Headstart 2.1.2 with patch 12.4 and Developper is 6.0.5.35.3
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Tim,
Headstart should be able to check out any tables you need.
We think we have the user settings
done correctly, but there may be something that we
have missed. How can we get Headstart to
automatically check-out the table(s) for which we
want to run the Business Rules design transformer?The user settings you need are (see also pages 5-7 and 5-10 in the Headstart User's Guide):
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- Also check the check box '... also Checked In objects'
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Tim,
Headstart should be able to check out any tables you need.
We think we have the user settings
done correctly, but there may be something that we
have missed. How can we get Headstart to
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want to run the Business Rules design transformer?The user settings you need are (see also pages 5-7 and 5-10 in the Headstart User's Guide):
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If this does not help, please run the utility with log level 'Debug Detailed' (can also be set in the User Preferences) and report the last few lines of the log messages. They should give an indication of why the check out does not succeed.
Hope this helps,
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I tried but whenever we create it,say,first ly for BPM,that is File-New-Project-Development Component-Process Composer
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Open your project explorer and expand the BPM project you have created. Locate a folder named "Rules" in the Project Tree. Right-click on the Rules folder and select 'Create new rule'. You can model your rules such as rule-scripts here and use it in the BPM.
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Why not allow Business Rule Design Transformer to overwrite existing BRDDs

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code to add to HSU_BRTR to provide a parameter that allows the user to specify whether or not the HSU_BRTR is allowed to overwrite an existing BRDD:
in the revision history:
09-jan-2003 Lucas Jellema
6.5.2.3AMIS1.1 Added new parameter and supporting code that allows user to indicate
whether existing Business Rule Design Definitions may be/should be overwritten
at the end of procedure install
hsu_install.add_parameter
( PACKAGE_NAME -- package name
, 40 -- sequence
, 'Overwrite existing BRDDs?' -- prompt
, 'N' -- default value actual
, 'No' -- default value displayed
, 'Y' -- mandatory
, 'N' -- allow multi-select
, 'N' -- include shared elements
, '' -- element type short name
, '' -- sql expression actual
, '' -- sql expression displayed
, null -- where clause
, null -- synchronize with
, null -- foreign key column
, -- help text
'Choose whether you want this utility to overwrite existing Business Rule Design Definitions.'
hsu_install.add_allowable_value
( PACKAGE_NAME -- package name
, 40 -- parameter
, 1 -- sequence
, 'Y' -- actual value
, 'Yes' -- displayed value
hsu_install.add_allowable_value
( PACKAGE_NAME -- package name
, 40 -- parameter
, 2 -- sequence
, 'N' -- actual value
, 'No' -- displayed value
--------6.5.2.3AMIS1.1
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procedure delete_brdds
( p_tbl_id in ci_table_definitions.id%type
, p_br_name in varchar2
-- Purpose Delete existing Business Rule Design Definition
-- Usage from run procedure
-- Remarks Find PL/SQl Module Definition based on Business Rule Label
is
cursor c_brdd
( b_tbl_id in ci_table_definitions.id%type
, b_br_name in varchar2
is
select trg.id trg_id
, trg.name name
, plm.id plm_id
from ci_database_triggers trg
, ci_plsql_modules plm
where trg.table_definition_reference = b_tbl_id
and trg.plsql_module_reference = plm.id
and plm.name = b_br_name
begin
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<<brdd>>
for r_brdd in c_brdd(p_tbl_id, p_br_name) loop
-- delete busrule (delete of trigger is since 6i not enough anymore, so
-- explicitly delete PL/SQL module also)
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( 'Deleting trigger '||r_brdd.name||' and PL/SQL module '
||hsu_name.get_name_and_path(r_brdd.plm_id)
||', a new business rule design definition overwrites this old one.'
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blplm.del(r_brdd.plm_id);
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end delete_brdds;
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(just before the comment: -- check if BRDD with this plm_name already exists)
if p_overwrite_br = 'Y'
     then
delete_brdds
( p_tbl_id => g_trg_tbl(i).tbl_id
, p_br_name => l_plm_name
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A new parameter in procedure transform_br_fun
procedure transform_br_fun
, p_overwrite_br in varchar2 default 'N' -- 6.5.2.3AMIS1.1
use the parameter p_overwrite_br in the call to transform_stage2
transform_stage2
( p_fun_id => p_fun_id
, p_fun_label => r_fun.fun_function_label
, p_fun_short_definition => r_fun.fun_short_definition
, p_msg_prefix => p_msg_prefix
, p_msg_language => p_msg_language
, p_rule_type => l_rule_type
               , p_overwrite_br => p_overwrite_br -- 6.5.2.3AMIS1.1
new parameter p_overwrite_br in the procedure run
NOTE: in both PACKAGE SPECIFICATION and BODY
, p_overwrite_br in varchar2 default'N' -- 6.5.2.3AMIS1.1
use the parameter p_overwrite_br in all calls to transform_br_fun inside procedure run
transform_br_fun
( p_fun_id => r_fun_tree.id
, p_msg_prefix => p_msg_prefix
, p_msg_language => p_msg_language
, p_create_att_usages => p_create_att_usages
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