Process loss in Discrete mfg.

Hi experts,
My Input material (raw material) for a product is 40g and the out put (Finished product) weight is 20g. where we will show the material loss in discrete mfg. MTO Or MTS manufacturing scenario.

Hi,
There are two parts in scrap posting:
1) Inventory
2) Costing
If there is no physical scrap generation or no inventory recording of scrap is required as well as there is no cost credit of scrap material is involved then you can simply maintain BOM data as 4 kg of SFG for 2 kg of FG. So, if backflush is activated then during confirmation of 2 kg FG as yield system will issue 4 kg of SFG.
If inventory of scrap material needs to be recorded or cost credit of scrap material to FG production is required then you need to:
Step 1) Apart from SFG maintain material master data for scrap material (not sure backflush require or not)
Step 2) Along with SFG component maintain scrap material as component for FG BOM but with -ve quantity (i.e. - 2 kg of scrap material for 2 kg of FG)
As scrap material is maintained as component in FG BOM, system will add one row for scrap material receipt in Goods Movement list during confirmation. And system will also credit cost of scrap material to production/process order (debit SFG component cost).
Try this and if require get back with your query.
Bye for now,
Devang

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