Process Loss in Subcontracting Scenario

Dear all,
In this scenario I am sending 10 kg of mat A 10 kg of Material B to Subcontracting vendor to get a final product of C but in actual process the vendor loss 1 kg of Mat A and 2 kg of material B and final product is of 17 kg .My question is how we can map in SAP ?
Thanking you;
Regards;
Joydeep Mukherjee

Hi
If this is your standard business process for subcontracting means
create a BOM for the material C -17kg
The components are materail A -10 kg,
material B- 10 kg
This means that for making the material C ,the subcontractor needs MterialA -10KG and MterialB-10kg.
Do your subcontracting process normally.
If this is not your standard business process for subcontracting means (rarely or some times)
Then after completing your goods receipt, go for subsequnt adjustment in the MIGO screen. then enter your wastage and post the document.
Thanks

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Hi ,
In subcontarcting PO scenario please explain me the following.
I am sending x kg of material A to SC Vendor .
I am expecting y kg of Material B from SC vendor.
By product in the procedure is C.
I have maintained BOM as A material to be send A, finished assebly is B and byproducts C in cs01.
Steps Involved are
1. I sent x KG to SC Vendor . ( Explain how to issue goods to SC vendor with Movement type involved.)
2. Found that actual consumption was less than expected in BOM, So i want reverse those extra parts i sent to SC vendor.( How to reverse them and using which Movement type)
3. After completion of process i want to do GR for the Finished product XX.(How to do GR and Movement type envolved)
4.In last stage i want to recieve the by-products from the vendor.( Movement type)
5 Scrap generated in process to be recieved in companies own stock( Movement type)
5. What are various excise document which are involved if vendor sends me the finished product within subcontracting period.( 180 days)
6. What is the " Reconcillation the SC challan ? Meaning of reconcillation?
Edited by: Shreya Sinha on Dec 29, 2007 12:30 PM

HI All,
Can anybody help me regarding subcontracting. Any help would be much appreciated.
Talking about subcontracting, right now we are facing some issues.We have right now what we call dismantle subcontracting,
Scenario 1:
Normally we send material A,B,C to vendor 1 for subcontract and receive material D.now on vice versa, we want to send material A, to Vendor 1 to receive material B,C and D.
while Material B,C,D will remain in vendor site after dismantle process is done.
I know, i can input one of the subcomponent say : A in PO as a parent component then put rest of others as a subcomponent with addition negative quantity for material D.
but the problem is , a lot of subcomponent for dismantle is involved and the customer is minded if they have to put a lot of subcomponent every time they create PO(while this PO subcontract may vary every time).Any other way for resolved this objection.
thank you,
Regards,
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Subcontracting Scenario -urgent

Hi all
our clients requires different scenario how would we map these into the SAP
1-We send the material to Sub contracting Vendor for Machining operation suppose 100 piece. but Vendor make the some pieces faulty (Rejection) like 10 piece.
2- by default vendor send some pieces without doing any machining operation.like 5 piece out of 100
3- Some times we issues material defect pieces to subcontracting vendor by default
4- Component we have already received but some of them are get reject on production line but component can be rectify and for rectification we send the component back to Vendor for precessing without paying anything to vendor for this rectification
How would we map these four scenario in SAP
These are the scenario please gives your valuable suggestion to map into SAP
Thanks
Edited by: JAM SAP on Feb 10, 2008 4:23 PM

Dear Jam as far as my knowledge is concerned you can refer the Subcontract Scenario mentioned below :
1) 100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and in Quality 10 Pcs gets rejected 90 is accepted
In this scenario -if you are having quality check then material will be in blocked stock in quality rejection,and the material can be sent to scrap(or Rejection) stores but if you dont have quality check in that case when GRN of subcontracting PO is done for that you can do 542 movement of the raw material on which processing is done ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the scrap(or rejection) stores during that movement.
2)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and vendor sends 90 with processed and 10 pcs without processing
In this scenario-you can simply do 542 movement of the raw material on which processing is done ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the Rawmaterial (which was sent to vendor for processing) stores during that movement.
3)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,out of which 10 pcs of RM which was sent for processing is defective GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and vendor sends 90 with processed and 10 pcs without processing which are defective from our side back.
In this scenario-you can do 542 movement of the raw material-defective pcs which was sent to vendor ,transaction code is MB1B and you can select the scrap(or rejection) stores during that movement.
4)100 Pcs sent for subcontracting ,GRN of Sucontracting PO takes Place and 100 pcs is accepted but during processing it is found that the component which is in WIP which was received from subcontractor 10 pcs are not machined properly so it has to be reworked and to be sent back to subcontracting vendor for
reprocessing and this processing should be w/o charges.
Well in this case the WIP component which is found that it is not m/ced properly can be taken back into stock with 502 movement -T code-MB1C or it material to material transfer can be done ...i.e from WIP stock i am doing RM stock with 309 movement ,T Code-MB1A so that my original RM can be in stock and i can send this RM or WIP item to the vendor for reworking.
For this you will have to make a subcontracting PO of the 10 Pcs which has to be reworked with Free Item to be ticked in PO(Because you dont want the charge of processing to be given to vendor). You will be doing the 541 movement so that in system it will show that stocks are lying with vendor , Create Challan ,
T Code -J1if01 and after processing vendor will send it back .so you will do GRN of this subcontract PO and now the same can be utilised for further production purpose.
WELL DEAR FRIEND HERE IN ALL THE SCENARIO I HAVE NOT MENTIONED ABT SUBCONTACTING CHALLAN RECONCILATION (J1iFq),You will have to take care of that in each of these scenarion mentioned above.
Hope this information will be of some use to you
Regds
Shailesh

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Can anyone please help me in dealing with subcontracting scenario with scrap taken into account. Please provide the screen shots from BOm creatio to challan closing. the requirement is urgent. please help me. all replies will be suitablly rewarded.
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Sub Contracting Cycle
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
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DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
(5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
Process of Subcontract in MM
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to becreated for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Inforecord and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
When you print the purchase order, the components are printed per order item
Subcontracting - Key Points
Special Procurement Process.
Item category: L
Order type: NB
In info record vendor should be maintained as subcontractor.
Vendor (Subcontractor) receives the components used to manufacture a finished product directly from your company or through third party.
Your company should place a purchase order for the finished product. In this manually you can enter the required individual components or it can be determined via the explosion of BOM (if exists).
Stock check at vendor level: ME2O
Company stock check: MMBE
GR for individual components through movement type: 501 or 561 (if with out PO or without reference).
GI to subcontracting vendor: through movement type 541.
GR from sub contracting vendor: through movement type: 101
Movement type 543 is displayed to cancel the material cost account.
If the subcontracting order has to be generated through materials planning,the special procurement key has to be set in MRP 2 screen.
- To create the Subcon Info Record : Tcode ME11 - Info Category - Click Subcontracting
- To create Material BOM : Tcode CS01
- With the Info and Material Setup, you can then create the Purchase Order in Tcode ME21N
Hope this is helpful.
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Hai experts,
I am working in process industry.I have the process loss in every operation.SO we have to calculate the process loss only.I cant able to count as scrap.
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hello,
check out the following link, might be helpful for you.
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/9b/2f1da2c2da7e4686a64d8758e0ec9b/frameset.htm]
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I am working on jewellry manufacturing sap implementation project..we have subcontracting scenarios here.
in this scenario, client issue gold and diamonds for job work to the subcontractor and receives the material back from the subcontractor.
The problem i am facing is that for example suppose if i give 1 kg gold to subcontractor and in return i get 9.8 kg gold from him. now i have to capture the loss of 200 gms. as client need to keep the track of this loss.How to map this proces in subcontracting SAP?
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What you have to do is,
There are 2 ways to handle this:
1)
Transfer the gold 1 KG to your subcontractor in MB01 through MVT 541.....
At the time of receive , return the complete 1 KG stock with MVT 542...Then later on issue 200 GM to SCRAP.
2)
Create 2 materials M1 is GOLD which you are sending and another material M2 which comes from subcontractor after job work..
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Transfer M1 stock to subcontractor with 541 with Qty 1KG.
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