Process mgmt on Shared members
Hi All,
Since our Base entity hieararchy did not setup to meet the Budget flow process, we are thinking of adding an alternative hieararchy that reflects the budget flow in the organization. But when i setup the alternative hieararchy and tries to setup process mgmt on these shared members they are not visible in Process mgmt.. it seems i need to create a dummy member (for each of the shared member) and then use it to setup workflow process.. any other ideas are welcome.
Thanks,
Praveen
This is a planning forum, are you now saying your question only relates to essbase?
If is planning related and you want more depth with access permissions you will have a look at expanding the filters, with planning the filters get recreated if they are selected durining a planning refresh, this would mean you need an extra process after a refresh to build in the extra filter functionality.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/
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but its always advisable to avoid unnecessary hierarchies (shared or stored or dynamic).
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But that alone cannot be considered as factor as there are many other factors to be considered for making a dimension sparse.
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I posted this yesterday (sorry, somewhat different subject description). I am trying to create an alternate hierarchy containing shared members using a load rule and flat file in an Aggregate Storage outline. One response was to remove the "allow moves" option and use parent child build in the load rule. I tried that and it did not work. i was pointed to a section in the essbase guide (which is about as clear as mud), and still cannot get this to work. First of all - can you do this with an ASO outline? If so, how? I tried a simple 6 line flat file and recreated the load rule based on the above recommendations and it will not the shared members. Can someone out there help?
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Hello,
is it just a common practice to have unique parents for hierarchies built on the same Essbase dimension, or it is a system level restriction?
Only in Hyperion Planning, or this is true also on Essbase level?
Is it right that only the leaf nodes can be shared members?
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