Process Orchestration - NWBPM Question.

Hi,
I have strange requirement in PI 7.4 NWBPM and BRM.
As am i have no experience on NW BPM and BRM, So just wanted to confirm if it is even possible to build.
Design is some thing like this :-
Actual Data will come from WebService and enter into NWBPM. ( Asynchronous )
NWBPM will pass data to SAP HCM. ( Asynchronous ) -
HCM will process data and send application Ack Back ( Another Async Interface ).
Now based on Ack, if success pass same actual data to another Third party system.
also Pass this acknowledgement to WebService
Regards

Sharma,
Please check the below link:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/b07ce666-fdf1-2c10-96b0-be959a344ede?QuickLink=index&overridelayout=true&47047071901612
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/50609c1e-1e9a-2c10-8dbf-b126f42e132d?QuickLink=index&overridelayout=true&48747879452952
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/405b466a-c6ca-2c10-b487-e2a5d0d5beff?QuickLink=index&…
Mutti

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Welcome to this Cisco Support Community Ask the Expert conversation. This is an opportunity to learn and ask questions about the Cisco Prime Service Catalog and Process Orchestrator solutions.
Cisco expert Jason Davis will discuss Cisco’s network management products offered under the Cisco Prime framework. If you have questions about Cisco Prime infrastructure or data center automation with our Cisco Prime Service Catalog and Process Orchestrator solutions, join us on the Cisco Support Community.
Jason Davis is a distinguished services engineer in the Intelligent Infrastructure Practice team of Cisco Advanced Services. His role is to provide strategic and tactical consulting for hundreds of Advanced Services customers, lead service innovation, and assess new services and technologies. Jason's primary expertise areas are in network management systems, intelligent automation, virtualization, data center operations, software-defined networking, and network programmability.
Based out of the Research Triangle Park (RTP) campus, Jason is also responsible for administering the Research Triangle Park Network Management Lab, Cisco's largest network management lab.
Since joining Cisco in 1998, Jason has been a frequent speaker at Cisco's Networkers and CiscoLive conferences in the United States and Europe. In the past five years he has also been involved in the conference network setup and monitoring. He is a much sought-after resource by the field sales teams to assist with presales solutions and executive briefings. He has provided strategic and tactical network management consulting for several hundred customers.
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Because of the volume expected during this event, Jason might not be able to answer every question. Remember that you can continue the conversation in Data Center > Intelligent Automation under the subcommunity Cisco Prime Service Catalog shortly after the event. This event lasts through September 12, 2014. Visit this forum often to view responses to your questions and the questions of other Cisco Support Community members.

Hello Jason,
Thank you very much for welcoming me to your expert discussion :) I feel to be in the right place, at the right time. Thank you also for answering question beyond your scope here, much appreciated. The information received will help me to go further as such I have submitted a 5 start rating for your first reply.
That sounds promising about the LMS part so yes, I stay tuned and wait patiently.
Ok, now let’s revert to the actual topic discussed here. Cisco Prime Service Catalog and Process Orchestrator solutions I have briefly read up on this on CCO (where elseJ) and picked out the following quote
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Today’s end users want self-service and easy access to IT tools and services.
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while increasing their use of cloud-based solutions to enhance business agility and effectiveness.
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---- un quote ---
I try to understand what (at high level of course) happens in the back ground when an order is raised and which vendor solution your product can interact with.
As mentioned in the quoted text, this service catalogue goes beyond the standard infrastructure.
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Your solution will need to interact somehow with the 3rd party vendor application that is capable building such portal I believe.
Without disclosing to many information, I assume the portal is linked to backend VM,s that spin up requested resources (and more magic of course). Perhaps I am mixing this up with another cisco product where a user can go on the portal and spin up virtual Firewalls, virtual Routers can be provisioned in now time.
Out if interest; Is this product also known as Mozart? (project code within Cisco?)
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Markus

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