Process order - Forward scheduling

Hi,
I need a clarification on scheduling in process orders for below mentioned scenario:
SO is created for a future date
MRP run
Planned order is created (scheduling for planned order not done)
Planned order converted to Process Order
My query is how the dates of process order will differ in case of forward schduling.
whether start date of process order will be as per basic start date of planned order or the start date of process order will be current date?
regards,
Mohit

Dear Mohit
Converting a Planned Order into a Production Order
If material requirements planning has already created a planned order for producing the material, the basic dates are copied from the planned order and the order start and finish dates are determined in a new scheduling run. If necessary, reduction measures are carried out.
Creating a Production Order Manually
If no planned order exists and you create the production order manually, the scheduling type determines which basic dates you have to enter.
If you enter both basic dates, the system tries to adhere to these dates when carrying out forwards or backwards scheduling. If necessary, the system also carries out reduction measures.
Regards
Sachin

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