Process Order variances.

To look at our daily Labour and Material variances we run the general ledger report listing all Process orders for the week to date. We also have a report called MCRQ that should pull all the orders togeather. If we run these for the same dates they are always different? Also you can find Process orders on one report without it being on the other, why would this happen?

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Process order variance calculation not taking the GI+Activity confirmation Cost

Hi,
Process oder was settled in the Month of June,2014. Accounting document was generated,but system only considered the GR cost. System was not considered the GI as well as activity cost on variance calculation. Variance posted GR= Variance.
22nd June,2014 Variance calculated, on 30th WIP entery also reversed with the same amount.
1st July,Order done untecho and no transactions are posted in the Month of July.
Now they would like to settle the Process in the Month of July. system is throwing the error " Status DLV/TECHO reversed after settlement period 006.2014"
Order status was TECO PRT CNF PRC CSER BASC BCRQ CRF No variance calculation status.
Any one faced any similar issue , please suggest me how to proceed.

Hi,
Please check SAP Note 386816 for error KV181.
In general it is recommended to use the Cost estimate of the Process Order (Planned Cost Estimate) for the WIP at target calculation. In additional please pay attention to SAP Note 386816 which explains this procedure and which prerequisites must be met to calculate WIP at targets or the scrap variance. Even if the group counter of the routing is different you can still calculate WIP at targets but only if the message type of message KV181 is set to SPACE by Customizing settings.
Hope this will a bit help to you.
Best regards, Takashi

Process order variance

Dear experts,
Here is process order scenario
In that i am doing variance calculation for one order
but it is giving message that "no order could be processed "
Plz guide me what could be reason
thanks in advance
regards
sachin ghogale

Dear
Before doing variance calculation check your order status it must be DLV status.
1. After Final Confirmation of Order (Status: CNF) make GR for order using T.code: MIGO / MB31 so Production Order Status will be DLV.
2. Then complete the order technically by using T.code: CO02--> Functions (Menu)---> Restrict Processing -
> Technically Complete. You can carry out TECO for multiple Orders in T.code: COHV (Mass Processing).
3. Now Calculate Overheads using T.code: KGI2 - Individual Processing
CO43 - Collective Processing

Process order-Variance yield error

Dear all,
Kindly find below first image,in short/exc tab yield variance exist
But in second image in short/exc tab yield variance not exist.
Regards
Rajasekaran

Hi Raja,
What is the order qty? is it 110 ? For how much qty confirmation is done..is it 100.. and during confirmation scrap is entered as 10..what is the status of process order DLV..?
are you using any assembly scrap ? check in material master in MRP1 view and confirm ..can you check all this and confirm...
Thanks
Kumar

Process order variance calculation

Hi All,
We have Sub- Assemblies which are currently set up in the system as purchased, sub-contracted sub-assemblies. this is how we will procure these the large majority of the time. There will be instances, however, where we will need to build them in house. but when we run cost estimate and mark and release sytem is using sub-contract Quantity structure in cost roll and when we producing we are using different Quantity structure like like BoM and Routing.at the time of variance calulation we are getting errors becuase of conflict in cost estimate Quantity structure and process order Quantity structure.
How can i solve this issue?any help is appreciated...
I'm getting the following error..
Message no. KV181
Diagnosis
This message tells you which quantity structure was used by the cost estimate that calculated the target costs, and which quantity structure was used in the actuals.
The cost estimate that calculated the target costs did not use the quantity structure used in the actuals.
This means that the cost estimate used a different combination of task list type, task list group, and group counter than in the order itself (such as the production order).
Example:
Suppose the target costs were calculated in the standard cost estimate for the material, and that the standard cost estimate for the material is based on the routing identified by task list type N, task list group 50000309, and group counter 1.
Now suppose the production order specifies a routing identified by task list type N, task list group 50000309, and group counter 2. This would lead to the error.
System Response
The system cannot calculate target costs for the valuation of work in process or scrap.
See also:
Routing/master recipe in actuals differs from qty structure for target
Thanks,
Anusha

Hi,
Please check SAP Note 386816 for error KV181.
In general it is recommended to use the Cost estimate of the Process Order (Planned Cost Estimate) for the WIP at target calculation. In additional please pay attention to SAP Note 386816 which explains this procedure and which prerequisites must be met to calculate WIP at targets or the scrap variance. Even if the group counter of the routing is different you can still calculate WIP at targets but only if the message type of message KV181 is set to SPACE by Customizing settings.
Hope this will a bit help to you.
Best regards, Takashi

Variance Calculation In Process order

Dear All Gurus,
We have produt cost by order.
In process order variance calculation I am gatting variance being calculated on Input v/s output costs.
While settlement also same variance is being posted.
I want variance to be calculated target v/s Actual
Please advice
Thanks in advance
Bhushan

I think in production order the variance is calculated between actual costs vs planned costs which is nothing but the input costs minus the gr coss of material produced at std costs.
Is that happenning or not??

Settlement of process order

In PP-PI We want to use active ingredient for scenario:
Our Raw material is MINING ORE which will have varying proportion of COPPER & COBALT.
Valuation of ORE is based on itu2019s content of COPPER & COBALT content. So we will use active ingredient to capture value of this raw material based on it content of CU & CO.
Now when we issue this material for production to process order, our semi finished output ( Say SFG1) will also have varying content of COPPER & COBALT based on kind of input quality. There will several process orders doing diff. processe.
Now my query is
1)     Can we settle the process order variance to COPPER & COBALT content of SFG1 instead of normal settlement to SFG1?
2)     Can I maintain my valuation of SFG1 based on COPPER & COBALT content?
3)     Do we have any user exit or BADI available to replace SFG1 with CO& CU in process order settlement rule?
4)     In standard cost estimate can we capture COPPER & COBALT characteristics?
Ultimately COPPER & COBALT are our finished goods.
I try to search sap help but not much info to help me on this.
Your input will be highly appreciated.
Nitesh

Hi,
The concept explained is typically a co-product scenario:
Ore produces SEMI COPPER and SEMI COBALT. SEMI COPPER and SEMI COBALT produce FIN COPPER and FIN COBALT.
This scenario is covered under u2018CO-PROUDUCTu2019 concept. Here Ore is Raw Material, SEMI COPPER and SEMI COBALT are SEMI-PRODUCT and finally COPPER and COBALT are Finished Product.
Now estimate the standard cost for your SEMI-PRODUCTS and FINISHED PRODUCTS using integrated BOM. Sit with your PP Consultant who can give you good input for costing the products whether based on quanity yield or quality yield.
Once this is tested and found the results are expected, the solution can be freezed.
Please let me know your feed back.
Regards,
Ashok

Process Order Settlement Rule by Order Type

Hi Experts
Our Client a requirement to have Process Order Settlement by Order Type please let me know how it can be achieved
In SAP a Process Order Variance is settled via the following Combination in OBYC :-
1 Chart of Accounts
2 Transaction PRD
3 Valuation Modifier
4 General Modifier
5 Valuation Class
6 GL Account
Can this account assignment based on the Order Type ?
Thanks
Suman

Dear Suman,
Normally, Order Types serves a different purpose. We can maintain default settlement rule, Costing Variants, Settlement Profiles, Number ranges etc at Order Type Level.
It is not possible to directly manage the Order Types in the Account Assignment in OBYC.
Thanks & Kind Regards
Umapathi G

Proces order variance settlement posting to multiple accounts in FI

Dear,
Settlement of process order variance is controlled via GBB - AUA, where a different account can be used by valuation class. Our requirement is to post on a different account by variance category though. Any idea wheher this is possible / which user-exit?
txs, Koen De Groote

Hello
It is not possible to post the variances to different GL accounts. However for analysis you can take the different variances to different COPA value fields.
Sangram

Process Order Yield Variance Report

Hai All,
I am working on a report which displays the Average Values of---- "Standard Yield , Batch Size, Order Activity Yield, Variance Qty, Activity Yield and Variance Value".
Now the requirement is that, I have to display all these data for only those Process orders for which the Technical Confirmation is given.
I need to know the field name of the Technical Confirmation and in which Table it is stored.

hi
use this function module
STATUS_TEXT_EDIT

Post implementation COPA Issue - Variances not setteled for process orders

Hi Experts,
The client implemented COPA in the FY 2011. There were many process orders existing in the system prior to implementation of COPA. Now the client trying to archive the old process order and trying to set deletion flag and system throwing error message u2018variances were not calculated fullyu2019.
But client saying orders were settled and no variances existing prior to COPA implementation.
My queries are:
1. The orders are created prior to COPA Implementation and they were settled as well long back. After COPA implementation why system calculating variances once again.
2. How can I check whether the variances got settled for the process order? Please give me the report or transaction code?
3. Can I settle the variances to COPA Transfer structure now for the orders which were created before COPA Implementation and what will be the impact?
Regards
Sri laxmi

Hi Sri,
It should be settle the process orders before COPA implementations and find below my answers point by point.
1.System will not calculate again variance, once you settle the process orders, you can close the orders, so it will improve the system efficiency and system will those orders in future to calculate the variances.
2.are u try to close the order, if it is settle the order, system will allow to close the order or vice-versa.(T.code-ask PP consultants).
3.i have mentioned clearly, previous reply,it should not be open orders.
please let me know any further information is required.
thanks and regards
nagaraju sami

Target cost calculation in Process Order based on Variance Calculation

Hi all,
I have a question on Target cost calculation in Process Order. My understanding is, the Target Costs gets calculated when the confirmation and GR is made for the Process Order.
But if the confirmation/GR is not done, whether the target costs gets calculated for only the activity types after the Variance Calculation (KKS2).
I have two scenarios. In one, the target costs got calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR after the Variance calculation.
In another scenario, the target costs are not getting calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR if I try to do the variance calculation in KKS2.
SO i want to know which scenario is correct?
Can anyone answer this question?
Thanks and Regards,
Brijesh

Hi,
In general, the target costs are calculated once you deliver the order.
Target costs for the components and the activities are updated only once you deliver the order and the target cost for the finished product gets updated when you do the variance calculation.
Consider your scenario number 1 - you said the target costs got calculated for activity types without confirmation / GR after variance calculation.
Now, if the order is not having any status like PDLV, DLV or TECO it will not calculate the variances in the first place.
Your second scenario is correct - without GR the system does not calculate any target costs. Also it will not calculate any variances because the order status is still not DLV.
Best Regards,
Sameer

Is calculation of variance in Process Order Mandatory

Dear PP Gurus,
I would like to know is Variance Calculation is Mandatory Befor Performing Settlement for Process Orders ,Once the Order is Technically Completed.What implications will be there if I perform Settlement Transaction(KO88) Directly with out Perfoming Variance Calculation.
Regards
Varma

as per my understanding,Varinace key in Material masster costing view controls whether order has to undergo Variance calcualtion or not before Settlement.
If Varinace key is maintained the variance is calcualted between the Target and actual paramentes.
If not, still the varince is seen in the cost analysis report.but against the Planned and actual parameters.
However you can do the Settlement without Varinace calculation.
Regards
Ratan

Process Orders are not getting closed-- Unsettled Variances; Balances exist

Hello Gurus,
We have a problem when we are trying to close process orders in Release 4.6C; We are unable to close those orders and the error messages would be variances are not settled and balances still exist.
When we try to modify the periodic settlement in process order settlement rule it gets grayed out and wont let us do any modifications. Some body suggested that we have to make the settlement rule to FUL and then try to close but it never works. It's a problem for quite sometime, any help would be worth more than an appreciation.
Thanks,
Ramana

Hi Ramana
You need to more specific on the errors and the description of the process where you are finding the problem
Eloborate your problem like what is the settlement type now, whether you have done the variance calculation, what is the status of the order now (TECO, DLV etc.,)
Make the process order in TECO or DLV, calculate the variance calculation and settle the order.
Regards,
Suraj

Remaining Variance on Process Order

Analysis of variances on a process order results in the difference being calculated as a Remaining Variance (Only remaining var. in version 0 - no target costs, message KV 151).
I want to include this variance in a report.
In which table can I find this data?
Thanks

Ttry COSS and COSP
table with value type 31 which is variance value type...
Do not forget to save the variance results...

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