Process Order vs Production Campaign

Hi,
I am pretty confused between these two terms Process Order and Production Campaign. When do I use Process Order and when do I use Production Campaign instead? I know both is for process industry but i am confused over the differences. When do I use one over the other?
Thanks so much.
Cheers,
Sue

Hi Sue,
Process Orders can be assigned to a Production Campaign. You use Process Order when using PP-PI. You may or may not use Production Campaign. It depends on the type of resource you are planning and executing. Production Campaign is primarily used to define time periods on the capacity when you produce certain type of products considering sequence dependent capacity planning.
For exmaple you have a resource - vessel or tank which can be used for producing multiple products but you need to do setup and cleanout activities after each type of product. So if you have process orders for Product A followed by Product B and then Product C and back to Product A - you end up having non-productive time (when setup and cleanup activities happen).
Instead you create Production Campaigns on the resource whereby you define for certain time in future you are only going to produce Product A followed by Product B and then C. In such a case all the Production Orders in future for Product A are assigned to Production Campaign for Product A and likewise. This reduces the non-productive time and also optimises the sequence dependent production plan.
This is only possible when the rate of production is quite higher than the rate of consumption (demand) else you cannot produce sufficient quantity in stock to meet the demand till the next production campaign is scheduled.
Hope this helps.
Somnath

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planned order - A procurement proposal generated by the system to meet a need, this can then be converted to a production / process order (for internal procurement) or into a purchase reqn & in-turn to Purchase order (for external procurement)
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In PP, you can see Production Planning and Production Planning -Process Industry
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Can anybody explain me what is reprocessing of production order.
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Reprocessing
Use
In the area of confirmation, you can separate confirmation entry from processing. As a result, errors may occur when confirmations, or the processes that follow them, are posted. You can eliminate these errors by reprocessing them. The following reprocessing functions are available:
Confirmations
Actual costs
Goods movements
Reprocessing Confirmations :
Use
You use this function to process confirmations for which errors occurred as they were being automatically processed. With this function, you can either delete or, if possible, eliminate the errors and post the confirmations again.
Confirmations with errors can arise if they were entered in one of the following ways:
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Order does not exist (for entry via PDC system, BAPI interface)
Order was locked
Sequence of time events incorrect
Individual capacity does not exist
Work center or personnel number does not exist
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Reprocessing has the following advantages:
Selection
On the initial screen, you can enter your selection criteria for selecting the confirmations that you want to reprocess. Possible selection criteria are: Production order, plant, confirmation, WBS element, sales order, MRP controller, work center, created by, created on.
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The screen for reprocessing confirmations is split into two areas:
Overview list of the confirmations
Detail screen for the selected confirmation
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Reprocessing
The confirmation that you have chosen from the overview (cursor position) is displayed in the detail screen. In the detail screen, you can remove the error in the confirmation.
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Order confirmation
Operation confirmation
Time event confirmation
Activity confirmation
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Display error
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Check confirmation
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Delete confirmation
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Delete a line
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¡        Production orders: Logistics ® Production ® Shop Floor Control ® Confirmation ® Reprocessing ® Actual Costs
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       2.      Enter your selection criteria.
       3.      Choose (Execute).
       4.      Select the confirmation in question and choose (Error Log).
Analyze the errors.
       5.      If necessary remove the errors.
To remove the errors, you have to exit the reprocessing function.
       6.      Choose Production ® Shop Floor Control ® Confirmation ® Reprocessing ® Actual Costs or Production u2013 Process ® Process Order ® Confirmation ® Recalculate Actual Costs or open a new session.
       7.      Enter selection criteria for the confirmations for which you want to restart the actual cost calculation.
       8.      Choose (Execute).
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This function allows you to process goods movements that failed when posting confirmations. After correcting any errors that occurred, you can then post the goods movements a second time.
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This function includes:
Detailed display of errors
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Opportunity to correct failed goods movements
Option of posting goods movements a second time
Reprocessing Goods Movements
       1.      Choose either
¡        Production orders: Logistics ® Production ® Shop Floor Control ® Confirmation ® Reprocessing ® Goods Movements
¡        Process orders: Logistics ® Production - Process ® Process Order ® Environment ® Material Movement ® Failed Goods Movements.
       2.      Enter your selection criteria:
       3.      Choose (Execute).
       4.      Select the goods movement that you want to reprocess.
       5.      Choose (Display Errors) to display the errors that have arisen, in detail. To leave the message, choose (Continue).
       6.      Select the required goods movements and make the necessary changes (for example, Edit ® Replace ® Storage location).
For example, you can delete incorrect goods movements.
When incorrect goods movements are deleted, the system does not carry out an automatic adjustment of reservations.
       7.      Choose (Save) to restart the execution of goods movements.
When you are reprocessing the goods movements for the confirmation, you can go to the goods movements overview. Choose Change Details, to change the goods movements.
Hope this details is enough for clearing your doubt.
Revert if any doubt and reward if useful.
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Message was edited by: Giovanni Baumann

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s_rspar-low     = im_ord_header-aufnr.
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s_rspar-kind    = c_kind.
s_rspar-sign    = c_sign.
s_rspar-option = c_option.
s_rspar-low     = im_ord_header-matnr.
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s_rspar-kind    = c_kind.
s_rspar-sign    = c_sign.
s_rspar-option = c_option.
s_rspar-low     = im_ord_header-werks.
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s_rspar-selname = c_selnam4.
s_rspar-kind    = c_kindp.
s_rspar-low     = im_ord_header-autyp.
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s_rspar-sign    = c_sign.
s_rspar-option = c_option.
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