Processing Nikon Scan 4.0 NEF files in PSE 7 Raw Editor

I own a Nikon Coolscan 5000 ED. The scan software Nikon Scan 4.0 can produce "raw" files with NEF extension. On the web I found some remarks concerning this file type stating that the scanner NEF is not really a raw file. A scanned pixel has already 3 color values, so there is no need for demosaicizing. It is stated that in fact the NEF file is a type of TIFF file.
Anyhow, importing this scanner NEF file in the PSE7 Adobe Camera Raw Editor seems to impose no problems. After editing the image can be saved including the editing parameters, so the original image may be restored or changed by repeated editing. By choosing "Done" the editing info is saved in an XMP file additional to the NEF file. You also may Save As DNG file containing the editing parameters together with the image data in a single file. The processed file may also be loaded into the Editor Workspace directly for additional fine tuning.
My question comes down to: is this is a viable solution for real raw processing of the scanned images. The scanner NEF file is not exactly raw, so I'm not sure whether or not the ACR Editor (or converter) handles the image data correctly. Does the ACR Editor know that the scanner NEF file is already demosaicized? And is the additional metadata (like colorspace) correctly interpreted?
Do you have experience with or knowledge about the quality of this type of workflow, please let me know. Any comments are welcome!
Leendert

Since you can open any jpg or tiff file in ACR, I would guess that ACR handles these files exactly the same way, but that is just a guess.

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I re-downloaded my Photoshop recently and Adobe Bridge no longer displays my Nikon NEF files and Camera Raw will not open them. I get a message saying that Camera Raw does not support my camera type but it always has in the past.
When you re-installed Photoshop, you also re-installed the version of Camera Raw which shipped with Photoshop - in other words you reverted to an older version of Camera Raw which does not support the D5100.
Camera Raw plug-in | Supported cameras
The D5100 was first supported in Camera Raw version 6.4.
In Photoshop, click Help > Updates to update Camera Raw.

Why are the jpgs that are generated in my camera better than the ones i create from the nef file in camera raw?

i shoot raw+ jpg in camera, for some reason the jpgs that come from my camera (nikon D300) always seem better than the jpgs i create
from the nef files in camera raw. i am saving at the highest quality. the jpgs from the camera seem to have more detail in highlights
better color more vibrant, sharper. could my camera be doing some enhancements to the jpgs before processing?

I had similar thoughts back when I first started shooting raw. Really, it's just a matter of editing to your personal taste.
Yes, that camera applies lots of presets before creating the jpeg, as Trevor.Dennis mentioned. Also, as he said, you can far surpass native jpegs with raw.
If you need it more vibrant, make it so. If you need to bring down the highlights, do so. Need sharpening? Apply some.
Here is one of my edits that I made a tutorial of: Sunrise Raw File Edit - Adobe Lightroom - Landscape Photography - YouTube. It is one of my less dramatic edits, but still a good one.
I don't want to clutter this thread with links, but if you take a look at my Facebook page, I put a lot of before and afters up in January and February. A Google search for Benjamin Root Photography will bring it up.
I shoot in raw, and highly recommend it.
I'll leave you with a nice NEF RAW file before and after:
BTW, D300 is a nice camera, I've used it...
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I'm going back to cs4 after using cs6 and I can't open nef files in camera raw.

I'm going back to cs4 after using cs6 and I can't open nef files in camera raw.

Each camera needs a specific camera raw version (ACR). And each ACR is tied to a specific version of PS. See this list http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html

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I edited a .nef file in Camera Raw and PSE 11 saved it as a .xmp file. I cannot open it now.
I am not sure if this is an issue but Windows does not recognize the .xmp file and give it an icon with the photo's picture. On a related note, when I edited some .nef files and Windows saved it as .dng file, it too, like the .xmp file, Windows does not recognize the .dng file and give it an icon with the photo's picture.
Do I need to download something to create this icon?

PSE didn't save your file as an .xmp file. The .xmp file is not the image--that's still the .nef. The xmp file is what adobe calls a 'sidecar' file, just a record of the settings you used in the raw converter. As long as it's in the same place as the image, when you open the nef in ACR again, it will open where you left off, with the settings you chose.
If you want to save as, you have two choices:
1. Click the Open button in the raw converter window and save in the image format of your choice.
2. Use the Save button in the raw converter to create a separate DNG file, which still must be opened in the raw converter and converted to an image format for use in other programs.

Processing Nikon Scan 4.0.2 NEF files in PSE 7 Raw Editor

I own a Nikon Coolscan 5000 ED. The scan software Nikon Scan 4.0.2 can produce "raw" files with NEF extension. On the web I found some remarks concerning this file type stating that the scanner NEF is not really a raw file. A scanned pixel has already 3 color values, so there is no need for demosaicizing. It is stated that in fact the NEF file is a type of TIFF file instead.
Anyhow, importing this scanner NEF file in the PSE7 Adobe Camera Raw Editor seems to impose no problems. After editing the image can be saved including the editing parameters, so the original image may be restored or changed by repeated editing. By choosing "Done" the editing info is saved in a XMP file additional to the NEF file. You also may Save As DNG file containing the editing parameters together with the image data in a single file. The processed file may also be loaded into the Editor Workspace directly for additional fine tuning.
My question comes down to: is this is a viable solution for real raw processing of the scanned images. The scanner NEF file is not exactly raw, so I'm not sure whether or not the ACR Editor (or converter) handles the image data correctly. Does the ACR Editor know that the scanner NEF file is already demosaicized? And is the additional metadata (like colorspace) correctly interpreted?
Do you have experience with or knowledge about the quality of this type of workflow, please let me know. Any comments are welcome!
Leendert
PS I also posted this subject in the forum: Photoshop Elements Technical Issuses and got the suggestion to try this forum. I'm using the Windows platform.

Thanks Thomas and Ann for your valuable info.
I understand that the output color data of a scanner is not really Raw. Contrary to camera's, scanners are reading linear RGB data so there is no need to convert or demosaice the data. May I conclude that the Nikon's proprietary "Raw" NEF format comes down to TIFF with embedded reversible editing parameters that can only be used in the Nikon Scan (editing) software?
Consequently, when importing the Nikon NEF's in ACR5.2 the embedded parameters are lost (possibly because ACR is not supporting the Nikon Scanner "Raw" format). So there is no advantage in using the NEF format and outputting in TIFF should be just fine.
Anyhow, I prefer using ACR as a start instead of the standard editor because of its fine and reversible editing tools. But how do I import TIFF's in ACR? When opening a TIFF in the PSE7 Editor, this file type is opened in the normal Editor. How do I switch to the ACR? Is it possible to save the ACR reversible editing parameters embedded in the same TIFF file or as accompanying XMP file ("Done") or should I "Save As" a DNG file.
And above all, can I be sure that the Color Management defined in Nikon Scan (sRGB, Gamma) is maintained while processing the file in ACR?

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I'm a bit new to NEF, and even RAW to be honest. But far as I can see both DNG converter 8.2 and Camera Raw (newest) is not happy with the .NEF Files from my Nikon AW110 camera. It won't open them.
Is this something that will just be updated in DNG or RAW sooner or later? I have an early release of the AW110 and naturally there is not too much support out for it yet.
Please let me know if I should be able to open these or not. It's no worry if there's nothing i can do about it yet, I just want to make sure my camera raw or photoshop isn't broken.
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ACR/DNG Converter 8.2 were released mid-Sept, which seems to be about the time or just before the Nikon 1 AW1 was available, so you’ll need to wait until at least the next release of ACR 8.3 / DNG 8.3 sometime in during late-Nov to early-Jan timeframe, I’d expect, unless there is something strange about that camera that requires extra time.
The first place ACR/DNGC are available is the release-candidate at Adobe Labs, so check back there from time-to-time:
http://www.adobe.com/
Here is the list of currently supported cameras, where the Nikon 1 series is just above the Olympus section:
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html

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Please help me load .nef files in Photoshop from my D3200. The RAW plug-in does not work.

Looks like the D3200 is a very new model, and needs ACR 7.1. You will need CS6 or CC to support that version of ACR or later
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html
If you have an earlier version you will have to use the free DNG converter, or a cheaper alternative to buying CS6 or a CC subscription, is to buy Lightroom 4

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I have a Nikon D60, Windows 7 Professional (32bit) and Web Premium CS3.
I recently upgraded from XP to Windows 7.
I cannot get my Nikon's .NEF (Camera Raw) files to open when I select "Open in Camera Raw". I can see the .NEF thumbnails, but neither Photoshop or Bridge will open the files in Raw, you know where you can adjust all those killer settings non destructively.
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On a Mac I don't know which directory it should be in.
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Inhere you can set the wished behavior for tiff. By default it shows tiffs
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D7000 NEF Files in PSE 7

Hi all! I just got a new Nikon D7000 and PSE7 isn't recognizing the NEF files. It has no trouble opening the files from my old D50. Yes, I updated the product and yes I installed Camera Raw 5.5 but it still isn't working. Any help would be much appreciated (before I toss my laptop out of the window in frustration...).

You would need to upgrade to PSE9. Alternatively you could download the Adobe DNG converter. I regularly use DNG raw files in Adobe editing software and the format works well. However I would recommend keeping your NEF files as your back-up copy.
Windows:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4924
Mac:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4923

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I have problem with my NEF files in CR. I import them from my harddrive, they open as 8 bit NEF files, but in CR, the only option I have is a depth, no space, resolution or size option where it should be, under the image. I also can't click on the info line under the image to change depth, space etc.
I have the option to change depth from 8 to 16 bit, but when I do that, I can't work on the image in Elements because a dialogubox says its not adequate size (or something along those lines).It is almost as if there is either not enough information on my files, or that CR 5.3 can't read them. I have a Nikon d60 so that should be OK with the software. I also download my images with a cardreader so they should still be RAW files.
If someone could help me I would be grateful, it's doing my head in!!!

…but in CR, the only option I have is a depth, no space, resolution or size option where it should be, under the image. I also can't click on the info line under the image to change depth, space etc. I have the option to change depth from 8 to 16 bit…
In ACR with PSE, under the image you have just two options, changing the zoom and changing the depth (bits per channel):
Why do you expect anything more?
I can't work on the image in Elements because a dialoge box says it’s not adequate size (or something along those lines).
What is the precise error message? PSE 6 or 7, Windows or Mac?

My Nef files Abobe camera raw

My NEF files ( Nikon 800) is between 50-70 mb. In ACR the workflow option states file size of 36,2 Mb ( default) Is there someting wrong in my set-up

Are you referring to the difference is size between the files on your hard drive, and when opened in Photoshop? They are bound to be different, and I don't think you have any problems. Well none to do with that at least.

Opening .NEF files in PSE 3.0

I can do this via 'Graphic Converter' saving as a tiff file,but is there a way I can open the .nef file from a Nikon D90 directly in PSE 3.0 ?
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Another option you might consider is downloading
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http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=106&platform=Macintosh
This will convert the d90 files to adobe dng (adobe's camera raw format), which can
then be opened in photoshop elements 3, just like any other camera raw file.
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I have just installed a second version of my copy of PSE 9 on a laptop. When I try to open an NEF file I get the message 'Cannot open [file-name] because it is the wrong type of file'.
I can open these files on the version I have installed on my PC so am confused as to why this should be different on the laptop.
I understand I can get around this by converting the files to DNG format but I'd much rather open them directly in pse as I currently do on the version installed on my PC.
Is there any way to get this fixed?
Thanks
Neil

Hi,
Are both PC and Laptop using the same version of Camera Raw - in the editor go to Help -> About Plug-in -> Camera Raw to check the version.
You may have updated your PC but not the Laptop - go to Help -> Updates
Failing that, please let us know which camera model you have.
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