Processing Obselete executed before deadline is reached
Hi Experts,
I have used a modelled latest end deadline for one day where the processing obselete is activated.
In the modelled outcome , i have a process control that will set the main workitem to obselete and execute the new workitem in the processing obselete branch after the deadline is reached,
but for me the processing obselete is right away getting executed with out the deadline being reached. Any idea what needs to be done.
Thanks,
Shilpa
Martin,
i have created a step ( activity ), in which the latest end is given as 'Workitem item creation' and time is 1 day and its modelled to a outcome 'DEADLINE' and the step is activated for processing obselete in Outcomes tab.
In modelled outcome branch (DEADLINE), i have given a step Process control, where i set the main step as 'Set work item to Obselete' .
In the Processng obselete branch, I have created a new step( activity ) with a new task which i ideally expect to work when the deadline is reached but it doesn't.
Please let me know if you need any more inputs
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