Procurement of External Requirement
Hi All,
I understand that the Requirement from ECC (as PR) can be sourced in SRM through Shopping Cart created via Plan Driven .
This will be driven by tables T160 EX and PR.
Now in the Practical Scenario, when once the PR is created and Sent to SRM for SHopping cart based on the above Tables entries and Sourcing was done in SRM to create further PO/Contract.
So once my Source of Supply is determined, do every time the PR created form ECC will go to SRM even if the Source of Supply is there.
How to realize this Practical case.
I dont want the PR to go to SRM for Shopping Cart creation instead only when I need Sourcing(when Source of Supply was not there)
Expecting a Help in this regard.
Regards
IS
BE-Customzing Transfer
with SOA XML_TRANSFER
Note:
only for SRM 7 + ERP 6.0 EHP 4 NOT for PPS customers
Not used anymore:
Report:
BBP_EXTREQ_TRANSFER Tables: T160PR, T160EX,
Badi
BBP_BADI_EXTREQ_OUT EPRTRANS
User
Exit: BBPK001
Configurations:
Step 1 business function LOG_MM_P2PSE_1 must be ON
Call Transaction: SFW5 -> expand node ‘Enterprise Business Functions‘
Step 2 BAdi ME_REQ_SOURCING_CUST has to be used
Step3 Activate event type linkages for external sourcing
Call transaction: SWETYPV: check for these 2 entries:
Step4 Activate outbound messages through qRFC
SPRO -> Integration with other mySAP.com components Supplier Relationship
Management Message Control Activate outbound messages
through qRFC check for these 2 entries:
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Could you get a fix to this issue, we are facing the same error after we have successfully distributed the SRM Central Contract to ECC and then trying to fullfil the MRP generated PR that we used for sourcing
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We are failing step 6
Your answer was below, but it did not end in a resolutuoin
Please let me know the resolution to this step
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Your earlier unfinished answer
" How could we disable the error message so that we could create PO in ECC with reference to contract and purchase req. "
- this message is due to standard config we do in ECC for matl grp & pur grp for PR transfer in table T160EX
ECC books the combo of matl grp & pgrp for external system (SRM) and will not allow to process the PR in it.
a procurement profile is allotted in EBAN.
Don't think you can change the message type to Warning or info. -
Hello SRM folks,
We are on SRM Server 5.5 with ECC 6.0 classic scenario. We have external requirements ( Purchase requisition in ECC) coming to SRM sourcing. In SRM we are creating GOA (Using SRM becuase of document builder) and distributing contract o backend ECC.
We are able able to create PO with reference to contract in ECC. But we want to reference purchase req (Because to carry all the accounting details to PO as SRM GOA does not passes accouting information to ECC contract) along with contract. When we create PO with refereence to contract and purchase req in ECC we get the following error message
Purchase requisition 10000601 00001 can only be ordered in system SRDCLNT301
Message no. 6Q 202, 6Q 203
Could you please suggest -
How could we disable the error message so that we could create PO in ECC with reference to contract and purchase req.
OR
How can we pass the accounting information from SRM shopping cart to GOA to ECC to contract.
ThanksHi Dinesh / Pradeep
Could you get a fix to this issue, we are facing the same error after we have successfully distributed the SRM Central Contract to ECC and then trying to fullfil the MRP generated PR that we used for sourcing
We are in the classic scenario and in the classic scenario, we cannot create a Purchase ORder in ECC from SRM, it only creates local SRM PO
Hence we are doing the following process steps for PDP with PM scenario
1) MRP Run
2) Push the PR as a Shopping Cart to SRM
3) Select the Shopping Cart and create RFx
4) Publish the RFx and Award the Vendor with the SRM Central Contract
5) Distribute the SRM Central Contract to a ECC contract
6) Use ME57 to turn the MRP PR to a ECC PO by assigning the Distributed backend contract as a source of supply in ECC
We are failing step 6
Your answer was below, but it did not end in a resolutuoin
Please let me know the resolution to this step
Regards
Tridip
Your earlier unfinished answer
" How could we disable the error message so that we could create PO in ECC with reference to contract and purchase req. "
- this message is due to standard config we do in ECC for matl grp & pur grp for PR transfer in table T160EX
ECC books the combo of matl grp & pgrp for external system (SRM) and will not allow to process the PR in it.
a procurement profile is allotted in EBAN.
Don't think you can change the message type to Warning or info. -
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Hi,
My company already implements Project System and Plant Maintenance, in which we generate PR from those modules, and the PR will be subject to release strategy.
At the moment we want to implement SRM 7.0 and we're planning to use Plan Driven Procurement scenario for the requirement generated automatically from PS or PM. As we can have a release strategy for PR generated from module PM and PS, can we have approval workflow for external requirement in SRM?
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MRP at storage location level with external requirements
HI,
We have to have reorder point planning at storage location level. Also we need to consider external requirements.
When I am setting storage location MRP indicator as 2 and putting Reorder point and replenishment quantity, then after running MRP it only considers the replenishment quantity but it doesnot consideer any external requirements.
Help me out how to configure the requirement?
Regards
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Csaba -
Hello SRM folks,
We are on SRM Server 5.5 and ECC 6.0. I'm trying to transfer the external requirements from ECC to SRM. During that I am getting the following error in SRM
1. No logical system for FI is maintained. Inform system admin.
Message no. BBP_PD055
2. Document type for determined backend system missing
Message no. BBP_PD249
I have correctly maintained the logical system definition of backend system in SRM ( define backend system) and in ECC (SALE -> Logical system). In SRM the entry are as follow
ECC 6.0 SRM 5.0
Log sys ECSCLNT400 SRSCLNT400
RFC dest ECSCLNT400 SRSCLNT400
Sytm type ERP1.0 EBP_ONE
RFC X
Local X
FI valid Real Time No validation
Sys Land.... ECSCLNT400 EBP_ONE
RFC (Dialog) ECSCLNT400
Please suggest
ThanksAny help please ..... here is the issue in details
We are on SRM Server 5.5 and ECC 6.0. I'm trying to transfer the external requirements from ECC to SRM. During that I am getting the following error in SRM
1. No logical system for FI is maintained. Inform system admin.
Message no. BBP_PD055
I have correctly maintained the logical system definition of backend system in SRM ( define backend system) and in ECC (SALE -> Logical system). In SRM the entry are as follow
Log sys (ECC 6.0) ECSCLNT400
RFC dest ECSCLNT400
Sytm type ERP1.0
RFC X
FI valid Real Time
Sys Land.... ECSCLNT400
RFC (Dialog) ECSCLNT400
Log sys (SRM 5.0) SRSCLNT400
RFC dest SRSCLNT400
Sytm type EBP_ONE
Local X
FI valid No validation
Sys Land.... SRSCLNT400
Please suggest
Edited by: Amit Jain on Feb 28, 2008 4:26 PM -
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We are running SRM 7 with several ECC backends in ECS.
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Prerequisites:
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