Prodction order without BOM
Hi,
Please tell me we have creating Production order without BOM(Bill of Material) & post the BOM Component of Production Order Manually. when developing the report Material Number wise then BOM not found in the report. So, i want to know that how to relate BOM Component with Material Number & which will be table to use in this report.
AmAn
Hi Aman,
which report?
If you don't select the BOM, then certainly there is no BOM component.
Furthermore, BOM are not referenced in the production order, but the components copied into the order, i.e. these are saved in table AFPO.
But if the components are not maintained manually in the production order (same table), and only the consumption posted directly as unplanned consumption, then you will have trouble getting a link. Possibly only in MSEG by identifying the production order number as the cost collector.
Regards,
Kay
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Thank you for detailed answer
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When you covert a planned order to a prod order with reference to a material (CO40), it will ask for routing
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Hi Guys,
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1.First in OS30 - Application Specific criteria for Altern.Determination,include a
new entry named ZP00 - NO BOM and dont include any of the check boxes.
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But Prerequisites is for both, should be defined as line item for Header material Bom.
1.Co product cost will be inclued in production order
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2.By product cost will be Deducted from Production order cost.
For details information see the following SAP link,
url=http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/b1/c04fc6439a11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]Co product & By product[/url]
One more clarrification , for
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Regards,
Tejas -
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Thanks in Advance!!Members:
Thank you for your valuable replies and time
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Kaushik:
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SG:50, Cannot convert planned orders to prod orders at BOM component level
Test scenario for Strategy Group 50 (Planning without final Assembly)
Product Structure
Material--> SG50.00 > FERT> (Strategy Group: 50)
Material---> SG50.02 --> HALB --->(Strategy Group: 40)
Material---> SG50.04 ---> ROH --->(Strategy Group: Blank)
Maintained PIRs and Ran MRP at the header level, Planned orders are created
with order type VP at levels of BOM structure. Thus cannot covert planned orders
to production orders without having sales order.
But my understanding of Strategy Group 50, is BOM components can be produced before hand (i.e.
before sales orders are recieved ). Now planned orders with order type VP not able to convert
planned orders to prod orders at BOM component levelStuti/Prasobh:
Thanks for your inputs, it answers my question
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Changed the Individual/Collective indicator to "blank " at header level (FERT), and maintained Individual/Collective indicator to "2" at component level
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Able to see planned orders at component level with order type LA
Due points have been assigned -
Production Orders without material - component reservations in APO
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We are using transaction CO07 to create a production order without material. We have four materials in the BOM for this production order. One is an input product and three are output products. My intention is to have the components on this BOM show up in APO as reservations or something else that will be considered in our planning.
At this point I am not able to see anything in APO system (e.g order reservations) like I would with a regular production order with material. Does anyone have any experience with this functionality or know if it is supported by SAP?
Thank you,
PaulHi Paul,
It is an interesting case, a don't know if you have solved it. Anyway, here is my suggestion -
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