Producrt Cost by Sales Order with Valuated Stock

Hi Gurus,
My client is having Producrt Cost by Sales Order with Valuated Sales Order Stock. Can anybody reply me for my following issues.
1. while calculating Sales order cost estimate thru VA02 , the same Cost estimate is appearing against with EK02 condition type in Sales order Condotions. what is the use of Sales order Cost estimate? is there any impact on production?
2. What is Difference between Sales Order Cost Estimate and Order BOM Cost estimate?
3.when can we calculate Sales Order Cost estimate ? whether before Production or before billing ? can anybody tell me please..
4.while settling the production order also system picking the cost in VPRS not in EK02, i am not sure about this step.can any body correct if i am wrong
5.I know we can caluculate WIP in Sales order also. when can we calculate ? before settling the Production order or after production ?
thanks
Prasad

Hi,
there are 3 types of scenarios in MTO.
In Two scenarios Sale Order would be cost object - (Non-Valuated Sale orders stock and Valuated Sale Order stock with Sale order being Cost Object)
In third scenario (Valuated Sale Order Stock without Sale Order controlling), Only Production Order is the Cost Object.
In all the cases wherever the Sale Order is the cost object, Sale Order is the final Receiver. Only the difference is that in valuated sale order stock, stock entries would be passed to FI and in non-valuated sale order, no goods movement for FG will be there.
Please let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya

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Dear Experts,
We are using product cost by sales order with valuated stock. In addition we are not using COPA
We also consume some materials at sales order level and at the end of month we want to do the result analysis and settlement for the same amount. In this case can any on explain how system will behave regarding settlement of sales order cost and what entries will get pass in the system.
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HI kishore
the reason is that sale order always carry the revenue and production order and production period carry the cost .
cost you can settle to the Material and even management want to be settle the cost to material only in production order OR period
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Prerequisites
If CO-PA is active, the system generates a settlement rule when you create the sales order. The settlement rule determines whether data is settled to other objects or other areas in Controlling. In accordance with this settlement rule, the relevant data is settled to CO-PA.
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I am trying to understand if I need to settle to a sales order (SDI) or directly to material (MAT) or to COPA (PSG).
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Product cost by sales order is useful when a finished product is manufactured for a specific customer rather than for the normal make-to-stock inventory. You can use the Product Cost by Sales Order component in the following situations:
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My client is manufacturing Energy Meters, they want Sales order based Production Planning and costing etc.,
in MTO scenario, Product cost by Sales Order
1. Sales Order will be created
2. BOM is created
3. some of raw material in the BOM list are available in the stores
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When I run MRP, the system will create planned order and PR, the system will check the availablie qty which are in the stores or not for the planned order.
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if the system is not checking the available qty, then there is no Planned Order, everything will be new PR for the whole sales order Qty.
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Dear ,
When I run MRP, the system will create planned order and PR, the system will check the availablie qty which are in the stores or not for the planned order
Answer is Yes .In Sales Order Based Production Order -MTO , you will be having pre-determined BOM and Routing , before creation of FG Sales Order .
Based on Planning Strategy 20 : If you are using 20 planning startegy , then you will frist roll the cost in Sales Order Level by going to VA02-High Lisght Line item -Extras-Cost -based on BOM and Routing , Sales order will be costed and flagged with green .Then Sales Order will be credit relased in VKM3 for MRP run in MD02.
Now , in MD02 , you need to select NETCH , 2,1,1,3,2 while executing MRP on FG item .Here , MRP system will explode the BOM till the lowest level and does net requirement calcuation for BOM Component (as depedent to FG) .If the stock alwardy available , then it will show up as Stcok in Order Report (MD4C/MD04-Planned Order -Order Report ) under Reseravtion number or else it will generate PR for componenet where as planned Order for FG.
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