Product Cost under Moving Average Price
Hi Sapians,
Please guide me how to configure Product Costing & the users steps to test the same. Here client wants to work in Moving Average Price.
Regards,
Vikas
Hello Viki,
This question can not be answered in this forum simply because its not issue based and we can't help you with each step. Yes product costing can be done using moving average price and you can do so in the Valuation and Account Assignment section in materials management. However, moving average is not a recommended approach for internally manufactured goods and it may result in allocation of the previous period's variance on the valuation of the products in the next period. You can find more on this on SAP Library and you can download the SAP's best practices configuration guides from the SAP website for help on configuring.
Kind Regards // Shaubhik
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Whats the need to copy std price to moving price?
I dont think there is any such t code to copy it.. But a weird work around is, if u r on ECC 6.0, you can change the price control from S to V and again V to S.. In this process, your price will get copied from S to V
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If you manufacture some thing, its price control should never be V, else it ruins the inventory valuation forever
Consider the eg below if your price control is V
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BUT, now consider this
1. Your moving price in mat master is 100 USD
2. You Mfr on Jan 1 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
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3. You Mfr on Jan 10 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and variance lying is 10 in prod order
4. On jan 15, you consume Qty 1 and qty lying in stock is 1
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Would like to seek some advises on the difference between standard price and Moving average price.
also, how does it affect the account postings differently?
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Moving Average Price
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I have the below scenario:
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We are maintaining moving average price for the subcontracted material C, (because the subcontracter is adding X & Y in addtion to the components D and E, which are sent from us).
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Thanks for your response.
I understand.
1. if we maintain spl. procureent key 30, system calculates standard cost based on raw material and service charges.
2. If we don't maintain spl. proc key, it considers the material as purchased and picks the mvg avg price from material.
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Moving average price for semi finished products
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2) Which price in the material master after the production order settlement,
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there are no advantages of it, ONLY Dis Advantages!!!
That will ruin your inventory valuation forever.. Consider the eg below if your price control is V
1. Your moving price in mat master is 100 USD
2. You Mfr on Jan 1 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
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3. You Mfr on Jan 10 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and variance lying is 10 in prod order
4. On jan 15, you consume Qty 1 and qty lying in stock is 1
5. In period end, when you do settlement, following will happen
a. For prod order 1: Qty Mfd 1 and Qty lying in stock 1 - Result: variance 10 will be inventorized.
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b. For prod order 2: Qty Mfd 1 and Qty lying in stock 1 - Result: variance 10 will be inventorized.
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Costing material having moving average price
HI
My client is having business where prices fluctuates a lot and he wants to use moving average price for all materials including semi-finished and finished material.
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During mass calculation of standard cost (CK40N), If user accidentally forgot to restrict the Raw Material for being included in calculation, the system calculate standard cost anyway, even though I set it as Moving Average Price. And user is able to release it too without any problem.
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I have a issue regarding the Moving Average Price of the Material computed by the system (indent sales process):
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But afterwards, they reversed the Material Document with the same Price .74PO Price x 10 items.
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WE 5000003540 1 25.02.2011 10- PC 1.15- SGD
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WE 5000001968 5 17.09.2009 10 PC 7.35 SGD
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Total goods receipt 20 PC 8.50 SGD
Total goods issue 20 PC 8.50 SGD
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SLoc S Date Reference Doc. GR/GI Slip MvT Receipt Issue Amount Balance quantity Price/Unit (Bal.) Balance amount Comment
WH01 E 17.09.2009 PL001427 5000026286 101 10.000 0.000 7.35 10.000 0.74 7.35 GR for sales ord.st.
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