Product Hierarchy upto 6 levels

Dear All,
In SPRO Transaction, I am checking the Material Hierarchy, there I am able to create the Hierarchy only upto 3 Levels. But my company requirement is that Hierarchy can easily go upto 6 or 7 Levels. So please suggest solutions how can I maintain this?
Regards,
Vishal

In Standard the product hierarchy consists of 3 levels. The first and second level have 5 characters and the third level has 8 characters.
Component Component Type Dtype Length
PRODH1 PRODH1 CHAR 5
PRODH2 PRODH2 CHAR 5
PRODH3 PRODH3 CHAR 8
This structure can be modified according to the documentation (IMG: 'Logistics General -> Material Master -> Settings for Key Fields -> Data Relevant to Sales and Distribution -> Define Product Hierarchies: Maintain Product Hierarchy Structure').
The maximum number of characters is 18 and the maximum number of levels is 9.

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I have the access key and am modifying data element PRODH1. I changed the domain to read ZPRODH1 which is my defined domain. I saved it.
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PAPH1     ProdHier01-1     ProdH01-1     CHAR     5     MVKE     PAPH1
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PAPH3     ProdHier01-3     ProdH01-3     CHAR     18     MVKE     PAPH3
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10UK     Best Practices
1. we have 7 levels in our product hierarchy
2. I need to read it from mara and not mvke
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Deleting the best practice operating concern is also difficult, since there are several clients where customizing still sits for 10UK.
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regards
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Here is the text from KEA5 when trying to ad mara fields (since date elment lenghts is different due to more levels):
Product hierarchy field PAPH1 cannot be adapted to the new structure
Message no. KE691
Diagnosis
The definition of the product hierarchy has changed (structure PRODHS). The hierarchy field generated in CO-PA, PAPH1 cannot be adapted to the new definition, because it is already being used in structures or tables.
System Response
The field PAPH1 does not appear in the list of fields that can be selected.
It can no longer be used as a characteristic.
Procedure
If you still want to define hierarchy field PAPH1 as a characteristic, proceed as follows:
1. Display the where-used list for data element RKEG_PAPH1 in database fields using transaction SE12. For hierarchy field PAPH1 to be adapted, a data conversion must be carried out for all the tables listed!
2. First change the number of characters in the domain RKEG_PAPH1 to match the new definition of the product hierarchy, following the example below. You can do this using transaction SE11.
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Field    Length      name       Number of characters
PRODH1     3         RKEG_PAPH1      3
PRODH2     2         RKEG_PAPH2      5
PRODH3     5         RKEG_PAPH3     10
PRODH4     8         RKEG_PAPH4     18

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hi
you can define the characterstics which is similar to the appended structure.
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Hi all,
we got a requirement to change the product hierarchy level from 3 to 5.can any body guide us for this.
thanks in advance,
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hi,
in std sap u can have only three levels,but u can go upto 6 levels.
follow this steps
1.append the std prod hierarchy structure with adition of zzprod4 and zzprod5
2.new data element can be created 0r use prodh field data element and attach it to new fields as per above.
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Plz let me know the Levels to which product hierarchy can be maintained for a Finished good in its Material Master.
What I know it is 9 and is limited to 18 characters.
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Some body can explain me about the levelin product hierarchy ??
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Product Hierarchy:
Product hierarchies are the domain of materials management. A product hierarchy is assigned to the material master record. This hierarchy is broken down into specific levels, each level containing its own characteristics. A product hierarchy is recorded by the sequence of digits within a hierarchy number. This hierarchy number may have a maximum of 18 digits with a maximum of 9 levels. The custom Product hierarchies can be maintained in V/76.
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Level number of allowed digits
1 5
2 5
3 8
This can be changed as of Release 3.0, where it is possible to extend the maximum number of levels to 9.
If you want to change the standard setting of PRODHS, e.g. you want to change the number of levels, proceed as follows:
1. Create an appropriate domain in the Data Dictionary (type CHAR with the required length).
2. Assign these domains to the standard data elements PRODH1, PRODH2, ..., PRODH9.
Please note that you should use these standard data elements.
3. Change the structure PRODHS by creating or deleting fields with reference to the data elements.
Choose ZZPRODHN as field name, where n is the position of the field in the structure PRODHS.
You want to change the structure of the product hierarchy from 5/5/8 digits to 5/5/5/3. Proceed as follows:
Create the following domains:
ZPRODH3 with length 5, category CHAR,
ZPRODH4 with length 3, category CHAR,
Change structure PRODHS:
Structure PRODHS in the standard system:
Structure Fields Data element Category Length
PRODHS ->
PRODH1 PRODH1 CHAR 5
PRODH2 PRODH2 CHAR 5
PRODH3 PRODH3 CHAR 8
Changes according to example:
Structure Fields Data element Category Length
PRODHS ->
PRODH1 PRODH1 CHAR 5
PRODH2 PRODH2 CHAR 5
PRODH3 PRODH3 CHAR 5
ZZPRODH4 PRODH4 CHAR 3
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SPRO -> IMG -> Logistics - General -> Material Master -> Settings for Key Fields -> Data Relevant to Sales and Distribution -> Define Product Hierarchies

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Thanks a lot for your kind explanation.
Here is the access sequence I defined. I wonder if there is anyway I can define PRODH1, PRODH2, PRODH3 in access sequnce the same way with customer hierarchy so that the system can check higher level data. If it's not allowed, I think I should define routine in requirement as you advised. Thanks!
*Accesses
AcNo       Description
1           Customer Hierarchy/Product Hiearchy
2           Customer Hierarchy/Product Hiearchy
3           Customer Hierarchy/Product Hiearchy
4           Customer Hierarchy/Product Hiearchy
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     3      HIENR      HIEBO03     CustomerHierarchy 03
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