Product spec means of transport

Hi Team,
We have means of tranport Truck and Rail
Truck - Transport Duration of a Transportation Lane - 48 hours
rail - Transport Duration of a Transportation Lane - 336 hours
I have maintained product spec means of transport in tlane master i.e.Rail - 336hour
But when i checks product view I could see "start date' and "avia/req date" is only showing two days (48h) transit.
Question - After maintaining product spec means of transpor- "rail" why system is taking truck time instend of rail time ?
Please advice me
Rgds
SDB

Hi SDB,
Please check if the Check box for "All Products" in MOT is selected for Truck MOT. This setting can caue the issue you are facing.
Regards,
Ravi

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Optimiser with means of transport

Hi Experts,
Pls spend some time to understand the below requirement and the design.
Requirement- there are two plants, P1 and P2. Material M moves from P1 to P2 using a train R. The train can move 2100 tonnes in one trip.It takes 2 hrs to go from P1 to P2, hence it can make only 6 round trips between P1 and P2(i.e. 12 single trips) in a day. Hence APO should create only 6 orders in a particular day with max of 2100 tonnes as quantity for each order.
Master data-
Plants- P1, P2
Material-M
Resource(train)- R(bucket resource)
Tlane- P1-->P2
There is one SNP planning book and there are two data views- daily and monthly
System design
Max lot size for M at P2 is maintained as 2100
Max bucket capacity for the resource= 6*2100= 12,600
Means of transport for T Lane P1-->P2 is maintained as 'All products'. Transportation duration is set as 2 hrs
Product specific means of transport is maintained for M, with consumption as 12 Tonnes
Results-
There is a requirement of M at P2 for 12,800 Tonnes. Stock of M at P1 is 12,800 Tonnes
When I run optimiser on monthly view- it creates 6 orders with 2100 qty and one order with 200 qty, but all on one day-violating the rule of 6 orders only in one day
when I run optimiser on daily view- it creates 6 orders with 2100 qty in one day and one order of 200 qty on the next day
Query-
1.Why do we need prod spec means of transport when the means of transport is defined as 'All products'
2. What is the use of maintaining consumption as 12 Tonnes
3. If I just go by transportation duration of 2 hrs, so the train makes 24/2=12 single trips, or 6 round trips. Hence 6 orders should get created with 2100 tonnes each in a day. But this does not happen and no planning happens in this case
4.Why do I get different planning results when I use daily and monthly bucket views
Would be very helpful to analyse the design and the concepts if someone can give some pointer
Regards
Manotosh

Hi Kaushik,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply and help. However I still have some query.
1.As per my understanding we do not actually need prod spec MOT when all prod incator is there.I think some older versions of optimizer do not consider all prod tlane (I am not too sure abt it).But if all the prods for a specific plant can not be transferred through same MOT then it is required.Also if the res comsumption and the cost is different then also it is required.
             - Your justification to have a separate MOT is absolutely valid as long as we need different MOT for any reason(cost, duration etc). But here there is only one product M being transferred between P1 and P2.
2. Resource capacity will define the capacity in terms of total transportation capacity and consumption is required to do the planning.Like if the consumption is not maintained the capacity becomes as infinite.So there will be more than 12600 tons transported.
           - We define the resource max capacity and the utilisation. If the utilisation is more than 100%, I understand that it will try to supply more than 12,600 tonnes. But here the utilisation is maintained as 100%. What will happen if I maintain consumption as 10 Tonnes or 10 BBL or anything other than 12 T as currently maintained?
3.There is a difference between scheduling and capacity.When you say 2 hrs but parallaly another tran can also go and transportation can happen.But when you define resource and capacity then you restrict the same.This is constrain plng but that duration of 2 hrd will not put any contraints.
       - The transportation resource is assigned to the T Lane. Hence whenever the T Lane is used, only the same resource is used for transportation. Hence we can not have more than one resource(R) acting simultaneously.
4.If you see the results are same only difference is the period.Check the resource capacity view.I think you can see the capacity planned correctly and also the monthly view check the strt and end date.
       - As per the concept, SNP does bucket planning. Hence it will consolidate all the demands in a bucket and would create orders for the qty equal to the demand qty either at the begining of the bucket or middle of the bucket or end of the bucket. It will split the orders based on lot size or any other parameters defined. Hence I am getting multiple orders with 2100 qty(Max lot size) on 1st of the month. But the resource capacity is overshot in this case.

Basis of picking means of transport in APO

Please help me in understanding basis of picking means of transport in APO and what is the link between R/3 means of transport and APO means of transport.
Manish

In R/3 the means of transport is recorded in Shipment document. It contains all the information necessary for carrying out transportation. The means of transport necessary for a shipment is reflected in the system as a handling unit. These handling units contain information about tare weight and -volume of the means of transport as well as the weight of the packed handling unit. Information about the country providing the means of transport, details about the driver and travel time are also included in these handling units. Handling units that have already been created for delivery items are copied into the shipment document where they can be packed further, if necessary. Delivery items that have only been partially packed or not packed at all can be packed in the shipment documents.
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B C
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Hi Harman;
No, the sequence does not matter.
While we're on the topic, also keep in mind that OSM can infer dependencies between order components within a product spec (a.k.a. fulfillment pattern).
For example, if you have a dependency chain like a->b->c, then OSM will still respect the dependency between a and c even if b does not appear in the orchestration plan. This means you don't need to declare a dependency between a->b, b->c and a->c, you just need a->b, b->c. Note that this is supported for dependencies within the same product spec and its ancestors, not across product specs.
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Edited by: brian.dueck on Aug 2, 2011 6:56 AM

Safety days supply not followed due to change in Means of Transport in SNP

Hello All,
I am facing a strange issue regarding the SNP heuristics and means of transport. We observed that the system was not respecting the safety days supply. For example if we had a receipt in bucket 'N' and there is a violation of safety days supply in bucket 'N-1'. When we un a heuristic ideally system should delete the receipt in bucket 'N' and create a new one in bucket 'N-1'.
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Regards,
Abhi

Hi,
when you check all products flag it means the means of transport is available for all products and not product specific, to select the MOT for SNP you need to check the aggrgtd plng flag.
Also safety stock has nothing to do with MOT, SNP heuristic plans based on checks the quota arrangement if its for multiple MOT it will distribute the PR based on the ratio in quota if both MOT are able to meet demand on time, otherwise it will violate quota till the time both MOT are not capable of meeting the demand on time.
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Dear Experts ,
I have question regarding lead time calculation my SNP
I have
Start Location : A
Destination location: B
I maintained Planned delivery time in ECC- material master as 10 days and cifed to Tlane Product procurement as 10 days
and leave empty in the transportation duration empty so the total lead time is 10 days from start location A to destination location B
now
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379006
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He wouldn't...
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Thanks for your inputs.
I knew the entries could not be edited. I had tried it earlier before posting this message. Neither the means of transport nor the SKU end date is editable.
As you have mentioned, I had already tried deleting the entire entry in means of transport and SKU list. Before trying to delete the entries I had deleted all transaction data on this particular TL for all SKUs existing on this lane. But the meassge I get every time is "There are orders existing on that particular means of transport or for that particular SKU".
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