Product wise profitability without COPA

Dear Friends
I have a problem with my client.
We are implementing SAP R/3 Ecc 6.0 version. Our client is having only one manufacturing plant, he is making 8 different products in the same plant. There they use common materials and common utilities for 8 products. When we prepare the Org.Structure, we have proposed single Plant and single profit center. Initially he asked us to maintain 8 different plants for each product, some how we could able to convinced him that it is not possible. Since, he wanted to see product wise profitability, he is insisting us to maintain 8 different profit centres or segments. We said it is also not possible, since he has a common expenses and materials, we have suggested to go for COPA or Z report. He does not want to take COPA or Z report for the same.
In such scenario, how can we address his requirement. Experts please throw light at the earliest possible.
Regards
Prabhakar

Hi,
With 8 Products as Cost Centers and Profit Centers, you may have to define the GL A/cs accordingly to capture the costs & revenues. Purchase, Inventory, Consumption, Inventory Change, GR/IR Clg/,
Cost of Goods Sold, Sales etc. You can create Customer Group also Product wise. Make OBYC settings accordingly and define OB40 relatively. Valuation area for SFG & Finished goods will have to different so that it captures the relative accounts assignments according to Products. For each BOM & Routing will be well defined for each product to be manufactured. You will have to define the relative
Work Centers and their activities linked to product wise cost centers with necessary costing sheet and
cost component structure and allocation structure. Create Cost center and Profit Center Heirarchy profit wise.
Regards,
Sadashivan

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I have execute an order settlement and variance is successfully posted in COPA Value field VV002(Qty variance)
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2000001 10 10000 20,000 2000
I have settled suppose 100 process orders for this product. Sales made for only 10 Qty where is remaining variance.

For your specific requirement, you need to use Actual Costing with Material Ledger. This would apply the variances to the COGS sold and the balance to the Inventory account.
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Currently we are using F.01 for profitability report.
However, the report for profitablility as available here is on Business Area wise.
We need the same kind of report but Product wise profitability.
Is there any standard report available for the requirement ?
Currently we are extracting data from MB5B and KE5Z and preparing the report manually in excel.
Many Thanks in advance.
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Nirav

Hi Nirav
If you have COPA implemented - Create a "report form" from KE34 and report from KE31 and execute from KE30
If you dont have COPA, then what you are doing is the only solution.. At best, you can create an ABAP report to extract the data you are manually extracting as of now
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Product wise profitability

Hi,
My client want product wise profitability, so pls suggest me what all settings are required in COPA to get the produt wise profitability.
Thanks

Yeah. But you need to pay attention to the number of material master. If you have millions of material master, it would be too much for segment level characteristics.
Analysis/reporting is normally necessary for finished products (FERT). Usually, reporting drilldown (segment level char) is done at product hierarchy 1 or 2 levels. PH1 PH2 may need to be converted from PRODH Product Hierarchy by using derivation rule (move initial several characters to PH1 PH2).

Business wise Product wise Profitibility

Dear All
We have two different types of business under the same Co code. One is trading and other is Mfg. We have to maintain business wise P/L and Balance sheet and at the same time, we also require profitability at product level for both trading and Mfg business.
Please guide us how to config the system in SAP so that we can achieve our above mentioned requirement.
Thanks in advacne
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Animesh

You can use Profit center and segment according to your requirement
add for Profitability you have to implement COPA.
Hope this will clear your doubt
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Shayam
Edited by: Shayam_210 on Aug 27, 2011 8:51 AM

Sales Employee wise Profitability in COPA

Experts,
Below mentioned are COPA characteristics in current structure. Mentioned in RED are characteristics based on Derivation Logic.
Company Code
Plant
Sales Org.
Distr. Channel
Division
Customer
Product
Sales employee
Supervisor
Manager
Segment
I am able to run COPA Assessment cycle for all other segmental level characteristics maintained in KEQ3, But for Sales Employee my logic failed i Have searched for some SAP notes in which SAP mentioned that Sales employee as a receiver characteristic we can not run assessment cycle.
SAP Note : 74399
But in this case my derivation logic is failed as
Supervisor
Manager
Segment
Are based on Sales Employee based derivation logic.
In this case how to run KEU5 with Sales employee as a receiver characteristic or else any work around is available for the same.
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Sagar C'kar

Sir,
Near to Resolve....
Need your Approval & expert comments... :-)
I have maintained 4 Custom Characteristic
WW010 Sales employee
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WW012 Manager
WW013 Segment
KEDR with Move Concept from(Std characteristic) KMVTNR to WW010 (Custom Characteristic)
KEDR Maintained for Supervisor and manager based on Sales Employee (WW010) to flow Revenue & Cogs
similarly KEDR maintained for Segment on different combination like customer grouping
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WW012 Manager
WW013 Segment
and the same can be used in Assessment cycle for OH allocation.
But if i keep (Std characteristic) KMVTNR for assessment i am unable to allocate OH to this due to system constraints.
So i am having WW010 (Custom Characteristic) with flow Revenue & Cogs and i am planning to allocate OH to this through COPA Assessment cycle..... And display only this characteristic in the COPA reports.
Is it fine.... May i proceed with this which will resolve my issue for Sales Employee based profitability...
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Regarding CO Product wise profitability

hi,
Actually can anybody tell me in CO , system provides us report for productwise profitability, Is it calculate on moving price of product, because we have one requriement where client asking for batch wise/product profitability(not using av, moving price)
Can anybody help me out for this,
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hi
yes u will get productwise profitabilty statement in Costing based CO-PA. u can use either moving average or standarad price or u can define ur own costing varinat for calculating material prices only for the purpose of profitability analysis.
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Model wise profitability report

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As per our new client business requirement(Bus manufacturing company) we can define division specific sales organization. Here product groups are treated as division. We have models of finished goods (Vehicle). In vehicle finished goods there are 9 models. These 9 models are treated as profit center and vehicle is my business area. Because these 9 models(divisions) are sub part of finished item Vehicle. It means customer orders belongs to that 9 models for that vehicle which we can track the customer order as per model wise. This is the scenario.
In that scenario If Component/Material A is used in two Models Naya and Intea then which Profit Centre to be entered at Material master level and how do we get Profitability analysis for both Models ?
Best Regards,
Samrat Roy

Hi
I would not prefer to have Model wise Profit center because that would cause problem which you are facing... If a materal is common, then you need to create Common PC also
Product Group can give you Model wise Profitability from COPA or PCA....
PC for Models should be created when the Investment made for each model is separately identifiable i.e. the Production facility, Capital employed, etc
I would also not recommend Model wise Division in SD because you will end up maintaining huge amount of Master data... A product group and Product hierarchy should suffice
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PCA: Product wise costing.

Dear Guru`s,
I need to understand that how can we get product wise profitability using PCA module.
If we create Fg wise and Sfg wise profit center and assigned the profit center to material masters can the sales and cost at product level be derived???
Further if we use profit center distribution cycles can we allocate common cost to product profit center`s based on pre- defined %???
Please suggest.
Regards
Nitisha

Hi
1. Relation is CCtr>PC one to one...so cost of product XXXX will flow to PCXXXX
Revenue you can post directly through PC assignment in sales doc during billing
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Case
PC derived from
Stock receipt (GR)
(Dr) Stock Account
(Cr) GR/IR Account
Purchase Order (PO derives from Material master)
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(Cr) Stock Account
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Consumption/Scrapping
(Dr) Consumption/Scrap account(not CE)
(Cr) Stock Account
Material master (of mat consumed)
Material master (of mat consumed)
Case
PC derived from
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> CO object
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> FI substitution
> Default assignments (FAGL3KEH)
> Manual entry
GL Account is a B/S account – document splitting active
> Off setting line item / Constant
> FI substitution
> Default assignments (FAGL3KEH)
> Manual entry
Asset transactions
> CO object specified in the asset master
> Starting EhP5, PC can be specified in the asset master directly
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Product wise /Division/Branch wise Profitability

Hi Sapians,
My client need to check Product/Division/Branch wise profitability at actual cost.
I have tried to get these from Costing Based COPA and find that COPA reporting is on standard cost.
Any solution please.
bukhari

COPA reporting is on Standard Cost during the month.
At month-end, when you run your Actual Cost, you have the option of transferring this to COPA using a combination of Costing Keys and assignment of Value Fields to the Actual Cost Components. For this, your Actual Costing should be active.
Config for this can be found under: IMG --> COPA ---> Master Data --> Valuation --> Valuation using Material Cost Estimate.
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Plant wise profitability report in COPA.

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I am creating a plant-wise profitability COPA report. Rows in the report contains sales, expenses and profit and the columns are the plants. The report is created with form.
Our company has more than 20 plants and they want all the plants to appear in single report. At present I am only able to add maximum 13 columns in the report (12 columns for plants and 13th column for total) in the form as I am unable to add further columns for plants.
Could anyone guide me as to how can I have all the 20- 25 columns in the Form. Is there any way to change the form-size to accomodate all the plants.
Further, All plants do not have data every month, so is it possible to hide the plant columns which does not have any data for the month.
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Umesh Gothankar

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Harish I am ok with other columns printing in next page. but could you let me know the process.
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My client wan`t Region/site wise profitability. 1 Region consists of n number sites.Below is the Hierarchy:
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Actual value flows:
Revenue is captured in two ways:
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2. Out of SAP
Third party billing tool will give the data and same can be uploaded in SAP through KEFC t-code,but what should be the data I should receive from third party tool I`m a bit confused.
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Regards
Nitisha

Hi Ajay ,
For revenue currently what my client follow 2 ways to capture it:
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Nitisha

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hi all
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if possible so how to configure in sap ( in 1 company code
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Milind patil

hi rahul
can u explain in detail how to to do this........
uu r answer very hepful but plz explain yar
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Product wise sales report

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we are having sales gl accounts on domestic and export now we want to know the products wise report
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Cost Center wise profitability

Hi All,
We want the profitability analysis cost center wise. Is it possible? If yes, how the Revenue value, sales quantity and the COGS value can be derived for the cost center wise report in KE30.
Please help me as my client has asked this requirement.
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Subbu

Hi Subbu,
Cost center wise rofitability is possible in COPA.
Create Cost center as a characteristic in the COPA structure.
The client has to on what basis the revenue and costs will be divided among cost centers.
It is unusual / Impractical to have Cost center wise Profitability statements as in SAP , Cost centers are used for Overhead Cost control and Management.
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