Production order - variance per product

I have production order. In this order are components - for example 10 with backflush, 5 with manual issue method.
When the final product is made, user is doing Report completion and then Issue components. With report completion all items with backflush issue type are issued from stock and to stock is released final product. Then user is doing issue components and components are going out of stock.
When the issue of components is done after few days from report completion, in Summary tab in fields Variance is some difference between Actual component cost and Actual product cost. Why? I cannot undestand the logic, how is this diffrence calculated.
Thanks for explanantion.

Dear Mr Verner,
I would suggest you to read the following presentations:
the first one explains what the Additional Cost could be:
https://websmp108.sap-ag.de/~form/sapnet?_FRAME=CONTAINER&_HIER_KEY=701100035871000437965&_OBJECT=011000358700003687172006E&_SCENARIO=01100035870000000183&
and
https://websmp108.sap-ag.de/~form/sapnet?_FRAME=CONTAINER&_HIER_KEY=701100035871000371280&_OBJECT=011000358700004837182004E&_SCENARIO=01100035870000000183& (from page 21).
Note that the Actual Component Cost and the Acutla Product cost takes the information in the stock tab of the item master data of the components.
Kind Regards,
Marcella Rivi
SAP Business One Forums Team

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Edited by: Raghu Ram Thatavarthy on Nov 25, 2011 1:19 PM

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