Production orders without header material transfer to APO

Hi,
for our process it's necessary to transfer dependent demands from rework production orders (without header material) to APO because the ATP check for the component take place in APO. In standard there is no way tor transfer such orders to APO. Only one possible solution is to add during order transfer a dummy material in order to trigger the transfer to APO. Is there anybody that have already used this???
Best regards
alex

Hi JJ,
1. Reference Operation Set - t-code CA11. In the initial screen, enter description, plant - xxxx, usage - 1 & status - 4, unit of measure - same as the material for which the routing is to be used (eg - EA or KG etc).
Click on operations tab, enter control key, work center, operation description.
2. Settlement - When you enter the basic details in co07 like description, basic qty, dates, the system will take you to the settlement screen where you need to enter the settlement receiver. Here you specity CTR for cost center or G/L for G/L account, you then have to specify the corresponding cost element number & also the % of settlement, which is normally 100%. You can also access this by clicking on header - settlement
Hope the above answers your query. If additional info is required, revert back.
If helpful award points
Regards,
Vivek

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