Production Variance Settlement.

Hello friends,
Hope you all are well!
Is there anyway that I can settle the production variances into different GL accounts at the same time? For example I have $1000 as the variances on my order. It is further divided into $200 for material another $800 for material overheads.
This $1000 is posted into a price difference gl a/c when settled. I would like to capture only the material cost i.e. $200 and post it into a different account. Is that possible? If so, how please explain.
Your help is much appreciated
Regards
Shiv

Hi Shiv
Try this if it helps u in addition to KOB3
For variance analysis you can use report S_ALR_87013127 - in Object list node in cost object controlling.
This is one of the best available reports u can use since it gives variances for all order types in all plants and company codes
Once u select the parameters, go to the layout and select all variances fields listed and save your layout so that u dont have to do it everytime.
I have been providing this to clients and is used for analysis and corrections to orders etc.
Also, there are quite a few reports not only on variance analysis but on WIP but in most of these reports the selection parameter is a single order instead of all orders for a plant which limits the usage.
Let me know if you need any more clarifications
And please assign points as a way to say thanks

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