Profile manager w/o Apple Push Certification

Hello all.
Is it possible to use Profile manager without using Apple Push Certification?
The Mac Pro running Lion Server has no Internet access but i want to use it to manage network accounts for the lab (all iMac and Mac Mini systems).
Can this be done or do I need to use Workgroup Manager?
Cheers

No.  You can still create and distribute profiles but not through a push solution.  Look at MCX in WGM or even Apple Configurator and manually distribute.
If this is a lab with no internet, how much change management do you need?

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