Profiles to Roles (4.5B to R/3 4.7)

Hello,
We have a R/3 4.5B system. Apparently Authorizations in 4.5B is handled using Profiles, not Roles.
Migration is going to be done to 4.7 Enterprise in few days.
Kindly help me with the process of converting the Profiles to Roles in 4.7.
Regards,
Gautam.

Hi Gautam,
Best starting point is TR SU25 and the corresponding helpfiles at [saphelp|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/EN/e3/3b9e583bc311d5b3cb0050dae02d7c/frameset.htm].
That should get you on your way.
Good luck!
Jurjen

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100   CHARLHO        T-D1780057
100   CHARLHO        T-D1780058
100   CHARLHO        T-D17800581
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100   CHARLHO        T-D17800862
100   CHARLHO        T-D17800863
100   CHARLHO        T-D17800864
100   CHARLHO        T-D1780087
100   CHARLHO        T-D1780088
100   CHARLHO        T-D1780247
100   CHARLHO        T-D1780304
100   CHARLHO        T-D1781182
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100   CHARLHO        T_P09204111
100   CHARLHO        T_P092041110
100   CHARLHO        T_P09204112
100   CHARLHO        T_P09204113
100   CHARLHO        T_P09204114
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100   CHARLHO        T_P09204117
100   CHARLHO        T_P09204118
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My requirement is that i need to create a new profile for technical people
as z_tech_role giving access to transactions as SE38,S71,smartforms etc.
Similarly a functional one needs to be developed as z_func_role access to Se16,
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There is one forum for SAP Security, you've to post this message in that forum to get quick and exact reply..
Anyways, please follow the help.sap link above povided already.
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1. Tcodes are assigned to Roles.
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3. Roles are assigned to Users. (profiles are not directly assigned, except few like sap_all, sap_new etc)
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