Profit Center Derivation in Service (CS) order

Hello All,
I need some inputs / clarifications on below query.
Service Order is being created with internal / external labors / services / materials. Debit memo request has been created.
In Service Order & Debit Memo Request, Profit center has been derived from Responsible work center which has been maintained in Main Work Center in Header tab of Service order.
Hope, this is standard functionality.
But I want to get the Profit Center based on my reference technical object. I understand by going through many threads that profit center derivation from technical object's cost center can be done only though development as suggested in Profit center substitution in IW31/ IW32.
Just by having curiosity as this thread had been posted in 2009, is there any new enhancement or functionality by which profit center can be derived from technical object's cost center??
Looking forward your suggestions...

Maheswaran KD,
Yes, as standard the profit centre is determined from the cost centre in the main work centre.
Have a look at user-exit IWO10005: Maintenance order: Customer specific determination of profit centre
PeteA

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USEREXIT_NUMBER_RANGE (Module pool SAPLV60A, program RV60AFZZ)
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Finally found solution through EK02.
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You can either Transaction variant SHD0/User exit
Refer below<a href="http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/supressing-fields-in-sale-order.htm">Fields in Sale Order</a>
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[Profit Center Substitution in Sales Orders|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/erplo/profitCenterSubstitutioninSales+Orders]
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Kishore,
Profit center is used for internal controlling purpose. It helps you to analyze clearly the costs and revenues.
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It is configured in Controlling:
IMG --> Controlling --> Profit Center Acounting --> Master Data --> Profit Center
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We are using the New GL, so EC-PCA is not activated.
We would like to set-up a substitution rule in order to derive the profit center in the sales order and customer invoice (we don't want the profit center to always be derived from the costing view of the material master data).
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Can you please confirm gthat 0KEM is the transaction to use even when we use New GL without EC-PCA?
Where should I put a breakpoint in order to trace the call to the substitution rule?
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I have a requirement where profit center should be derived in sales order on the combination of customer country and plant.
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It is possible to achieve this by using Profit Center Substitution in Sales Orders but as per your requirement Customer country is not available in Table fields but wherein Plant is available. Please find the below example process
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Click on the save icon. System will give a message save and generation successfully completed. The substitution rule is now created.
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