Profit center derivation rule

HI
We need to maintain the profit center derivation rule in the delivery or billing document, i.e. if batch no starts as A- Profit center-1000, B -Profit center-2000. We have used some user exit in order and working fine. where as our client is interested to have same in delivery or billing document. Is there any user exits are available. The profit center should be determined as per batch no starts and not as maintained in the material master.
Regards.
Edited by: R Rao on Sep 22, 2008 4:03 PM

Please check this user exits available for VF01.
SDVFX007 User exit: Billing plan during transfer to Accounting
SDVFX008 User exit: Processing of transfer structures SD-FI
SDVFX009 Billing doc. processing KIDONO (payment reference number)
SDVFX010 User exit item table for the customer lines
SDVFX011 Userexit for the komkcv- and kompcv-structures
V05I0001 User exits for billing index
V05N0001 User Exits for Printing Billing Docs. using POR Procedure
V60A0001 Customer functions in the billing document
V60P0001 Data provision for additional fields for display in lists
V61A0001 Customer enhancement: Pricing
Also check this user exits as well.
USEREXIT_NUMBER_RANGE (Module pool SAPLV60A, program RV60AFZZ)
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USEREXIT_ACCOUNT_PREP_KOMKCV (Module pool SAPLV60A, program RV60AFZZ)
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USEREXIT_ACCOUNT_PREP_KOMPCV (Module pool SAPLV60A)
In this user exit additional fields for account determination that are not provided in the standard system are copied into communication structure KOMPCV (item fields).
USEREXIT_FILL_VBRK_VBRP (Module pool SAPLV60A, program RV60AFZC)
This user exit is only called when the billing document is created. It is used to provide the header and the item of the new billing document with deviating or additional data.

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