Profit Center in New GL with Document Splitting

Hi
As per my understanding, from ECC 5.0 onwards you are forced to use New GL, and we are also planning to use Document splitting as some of the period end closing of profit center accounting are avoided.
Further I want to add that since document splitting is active, the old profit center tables GLPCA & GLPCT are not updated. The profit center details are updated in FAGLEXT, FAGLEXP & FAGLEXA tables.
I need clarifications for the following: -
1. How do I plan for the profit centers Profit Center & Balance sheets
2. How do I do profit center Plan / Actual Assessments / Distributions
Kindly clarify.
Regards,
Suraj

I am also facing the same issue. Can anyone please guide how to handle the AUC downpayments made in the legacy system to SAP?
The solution I thought of is just create a special GL indicater for AUC downpayments and post the vendor payments in F-48. Please guide is this the complete solution? We are using the Internal Order for AUC with investment measure.

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Hi SAP Gurus,
We've already configured the document splitting functionality in our project, however we still encounter some issues with the outcome of posting documents. For some scenarios, the document split functionality seem to work. Below is such example
Scenario # 1
Entry View:
40 Expense (cost ctr 0001)
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Hi Milind,
Thanks for the reply.
I've done the below configuration and assigned cost/profit center update. It now works for profit center split. It still does not split accordingly per cost center though.
SAP Customizing Implementation Guide > Financial Accounting (New) > Financial Accounting Global Settings (New) > Ledgers >Ledger > Assign Scenarios and Customer Fields to Ledgers
In the below configuration, cost center is not an available option. Unlike the profit center which is available here.
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The profit center split looks fine now, however the cost center split still is only reflected in the expense items and not on the AP item.
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Edited by: Patrick on May 9, 2011 7:46 AM

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I am encountering a problem with document splitting, where in while doing clearing of down payment against miro invoice profit center of first line item is over ridding profit center of second line item (line items are two different materials in purchase order).

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Thanks for the reply.
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Thanks for your reply
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I need this NEW GL Concepts
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Hi,
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New GL Configuration:
1 Define Currencies for Leading Ledger:
Financial Accounting (New)>**** (New)>Ledgers>Ledger>Define
currencies of the leading ledger
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FA(N)>GLA(N)Business Transactions> Doc.Splitting >Activate Doc
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7.Classify Document Types For Document Splitting :
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Financial Accounting (New)>General Ledger Accounting (New)>Business Transactions>Document splitting>Define Doc Splitting Characteristic for General Ledger Accounting
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10.DEFINE DOCUMENT SPLITTING CHARACTERISTICS FOR CONTROLLING.
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2.You will reach to change view "activation of New GL A/cg" detail screen and tick the checkbox and save.
3. After activation of New General Ledger Accounting, you exit the IMG screen When you re-enter , you find that a new node is added Financial Accounting (New)
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SAP Customizing IMG ---> Enterprise Structure -
> Definition ---> Financial Accounting ---> Define Segment
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SAP Customizing IMG -
> Financial Accounting ( New ) -
> Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -
> Ledgers -
> Ledger -
> Define Ledgers for General Ledger Accounting
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> Financial Accounting ( New ) -
> Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -
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> Ledger -
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SAP Customizing IMG -
> Financial Accounting ( New ) -
> Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -
> Ledgers -
>Fields -
> Display Scenarios for General Ledger Accounting.
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Manufacturing
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Research and Development
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