Profit center in New GL

Hi,
I got good info on Profit center and Doc splitting from the forum archives.
I have a doubt : If doc splitting with Zero balancing is activated the system takes care to get the BS and PL at profit center.
1. Is it necessary to clear the balances in Clearing account posted by system to balance the Dr and Cr to 0?
2. How to ensure that all my transactions are getting the profit center a) Automatic postings like PO,SD B) manual Posting
3. I think 3KEH is no more useful to map all Balance sheet accounts to Profirt center.
Assure to assign points
Thanks, Chitras.

Hello,
regarding your third question please have a close look on SAP note 826357, especially part "1. Set the proposal profit center for additional balance sheet and P&L accounts."
There is the new transaction FAGL3KEH which had to be developed because SAP needed to get the former 3KEH logic being processed at an earlier stage in the CO-Interface before the Document Split logic is being processed.
Transaction 3KEH is still necessary but ONLy controls/decides if an account should be posted in PCA. Then the decision WHICH profitcenter is being set as default profitcenter will be processed in FAGL3KEH.
Regards, Andreas

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