Profit center valuation in material master

Does anyone know the table where the profit center valuation standard is stored. In MBEW I see the legal valuation standard but not the profit center valuation standard.

I can give you some information but not everything. I have gone through the deployment of material ledger using 3 valuations, but not the ones you are using. We used Local, Group and Group at Group. All 3 are at actual costing. What this means is that the local currency is the currency in the country where the plant exists. The group valuation is a straight conversion to US dollars from the local currency based on the currency conversion tables M and P rates. Note that both of these first two currencies can include intercompany profit if reflected on the transferring sales order between companies. The Group at Group is the US dollar conversion without the intercompany profit. We find this works for our business.
The other thing about material ledger is that you need to have a standard cost estimate so that material ledger can keep track of the cos component structure. The way it works is as follows:
Say the standard estimate shows labor=$100, materials=$200 and overhead=$300 for a total cost of $600. All transactions in the month using this material use the $600 standard. Now, when material ledger is run at month end, the PUP (periodc unit price) is calculated and let us assume the PUP values are labor=$150, materials=$250, overhead=$350 for a total PUP of $750. Material ledger already has tables with the details of the standard components against every transaction. Now it will apply the remaining adjustments totalling $150 to the proper cost components for COPA purposes. This is pushed to COPA using transaction KE27. Think of it like this...Actual cost is equal to standard ($600) plus/minus variances ($150).
Therefore, you always should have a standard cost estimate when using material ledger. At least that is my usage and understanding. I hope I provided useful information for you in some way.
David

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Regards

Hi,
The path told in above reply is correct but making profit centre mandatory for only two plants is not possible.
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we need to change the profit center but the system is not letting because the is stock.
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tej yadav wrote:
Hi, The only solution to change the "PROFIT CENTER" for you will be to maintain message MM335 in OMT4 as a warning, then change the Profit center & again change it to error.
Are you really thinking this is the right approach?
ever thought about how the posting are made in the other modules then? We dont live on an MM island, so a solution has to cover the requirements of the connected modules as well.
if you had received stock to a material with profit center A, then value is posted to profit center A.
if you change the profit center in material master to B while you have stock, the value of earlier receipts will not move from profit center A to B, they stay at A.
The next goods issue for this material is made against the profit center B.
this results in having a postive value at profit center A (which will never go away) and having a negative value at profit center B (because you had never received to profit center B what you just issued)
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Florian LINTNER wrote:
Hi!
>
> post the goods issue in the prior period.
> Change the profit center.
> And post a new goods entry with the date of today..
>
> regards
> flo
you cannot issue anything in the prior period if everything is already issued in the current period.
One should obtain the quantityof previous period in material master accounting view.
Finally you have to have zero stock in current and previous period before changing profit center.
How you approach this is based on the fact if the current period stock is bigger or smaller than the previous period stock.
if current period stock is bigger, then issue previous period stock with previous peiod date, and issue remaining stock in current period.
if current period stock is smaller than previous period stock, then you have to write on the delta in the current period, and subsequent issue the total stock in the previous period.
seesen_rs wrote:
Your approach is right. when we had this issue we solved through created dummy material and issue it to dummy material, change the profit center and receive it back..
>
> Both options dont affect the accounting.
Goods issue to cost center or goods movement 309 to a dummy material will both affect accounting and create accounting documents.
of course, if everything works well then you will get accounting documents with opposite value after you have changed the profit center and you write on the quantity again.

Profit Center Assignment on material master

Hi,
We have not assigned profit centers on materials and there are line items that are going to unassigned or dummy
We are into utility industry. We have 3 Profit centers Headquarters, Water Operation and Power Operation.
We have spare parts and other materials which are used for maintaining equipment or service orders in water operation and also power operation.
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Hi,
In standard you can assign one profit center in material master. But you can maintain different profit centers for same material but maintained in different plant.
In Finished goods case you can set Profit center substitution in 0KEM.
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Sany..

Profit Center Maintaining in Material Master

Dear Friends,
One of my client has Posted a material(without maintaining Profit center in Materila master) to wrong profitcenter.
Now he is trying to maintain the correct profit center in Material master record for that material.
But system not allowing this as there is stock for that material in warehouse.
My client Requirement is,
He want to maintain the correct Profit center in Master Data without reversing the whole stock.
Can u pls tel me is it possible or not.
if it possible means kindly explain the steps.
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Sankar D

If your client is very much strict enough to change the profit center in Material master only then you also tell him strictly that it is not possible & thats why the system is giving the error message.
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Hi Vinod,
Did you find any solution for your issue?
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Profit center is linked to Plant. There can be only one to one relationship between a plant and profit center. So if you want to transact on a material on 2 different profit centers, then you need to two plants and you have create that material in these two plants.

About profit centers assignment in Material Master

Hi Frnds,
Have a doubt to clarify. As far as assigning the (Cost centers and) Profit Centers in Material Master (MM01/MM02 ) is concerned, when we look at the costing views, there we have an option only to enter a Profit Center and not a Cost Center. Can anyone suggest to me in this regards.
My doubt is: When we purchase a Raw material/ Semi finished (in short any material), it is a cost incurred to produce a Finished product, which means this has to hit some cost center, first.
And above all when a PO etc from MM are made, there the purchasing clerk punches the RELEVANT COST CENTERS, then:
what is the use of defaulting Profit center in the material master,(without actually defaulting both cost and profit centers in costing views of MM).
(ii) when a cost object (profit center) is being defaulted, why not cost center?
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regards
sandhya

Hi,
To clarify your doubts see my response below:
1) Only Costs can be assigned to Cost Centres. i.e.Balance Sheet items cannot be assigned to Cost Centres.
2) On the other hand Balance Sheet items can be assigned to Profit Centres.
When you purchase a Raw material or Intermediate it is not a Cost at the point of Purchase but it is only a Cost at the time of Consumption, if the same is going to be inventorised. In this case it cannot be assigned to a Cost Centre as the Inventory Account which is a Balance Sheet Account is debited in FI.
Only when the Material is issued to the Production line for manufacture of a Finished product, the Cost centre will be manually assigned. Further, you cannot assign a default Cost Centre to a material , as the material can be issued & consumed by any Cost centre and thus the Cost centre will be assigned at the time of issue.
If you purchase a material and if the same is not going to be inventorised but it is a consumable material, it is assigned to a Cost Centre as the time of purchase and it will be debited to a P&L account in FI. The Cost Centre can be defaulted from the Purchase Requisition or the Purchase Order as the case maybe.
Profit centres are defaulted in the Material master, as we need to generate Profit Centre wise Financial statements and the Inventories need to be posted to Profit Centres to generate Financial statements.
Hope this clarifies your doubts.
Regards,
Assign points if useful.

Table where the profit center valuation standard is stored.

Does anyone know the table where the profit center valuation standard is stored. In MBEW I see the legal valuation standard but not the profit center valuation standard. Both of these can be viewed in the material master data in the accounting 1 tab.

Hi,
CEPC table
Rhea.
Edited by: rhea on Sep 26, 2008 1:51 PM

Cost component split transfer for Profit center valuation in ke27

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We have activated multiple valuation/transfer prices. Material ledger is also activated.
We want to transfer cost component split to CO-PA by ke27.
We have defined separate costing keys for access to actual cost estimate for legal and profit center valuations.
But cost component split transfer to COPA works only for legal valution. Even we have defined type of valution for profit center costing key -transfer cost component split and total costs.
What should be else customized to transfer cost components splitting in profit center valuation to CO-PA from actual cost estimates?
With best regards,
Kamila.

Hi,
I have assigned the same value fields used for legal valuation to column 2, which was pointed in message.
But now I got following message in ke27:
For actual data, value fields that were already populated before CO-PA valuation cannot be changed in valuation.
1. As a rule, value fields that were filled before CO-PA valuation - be it from SD or by a manual entry of a line item - can only be changed by means of user exits.
(Note that for plan data, CO-PA valuation always has priority over the values planned manually.)
2. The valuation steps in a CO-PA valuation strategy are numbered sequentially. These numbers determine the order in which the steps are carried out within that strategy. As a rule, value fields populated in one step can be used as a basis for calculating values for other value fields in a subsequent step.
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3. If you valuate using multiple material cost estimates simultaneously, this means that the values of different cost components within the same cost estimate are aggregated and then entered in one CO-PA value field. However, value fields that already contain data from a previous cost estimate are not overwritten by a later cost estimate. Consequently, you should assign value fields in Customizing so that the values of different cost estimates are entered in different sets of value fields.
4. When condition values are transferred to CO-PA value fields, note that condition types that are assigned to the same value field are added together. This is also the case when the condition types come from different costing sheets within the valuation strategy.
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With best regards,
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Group Currency in Profit Center Valuation ?

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We have 3 currencies configured, 1. Local Currency(10), 2.Group Currency(30) 3.Group Currency in Profit Center Valuation(32).
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In FI you can manage up to three parallel valuation methods to support transfer prices. The valuation bases are stored using the additional currency and the ledger facilities.
You can use the following valuation methods: 0 - Legal valuation, 1- Group valuation, 2- Profit center valuation.
Also you can have the following currencies: 10 - Company code currency, 30-Group currency, 40-Hard currency, 50-Index-based currency, 60-Global company currency.
The currency and the valuation method are combined in the financial accounting document to form the currency and valuation type. For example, if you want to make a group valuation in the group currency, you enter currency and valuation type 31 in the company code.
IN your case a group valuation in group currency and a profit center valuation in group currency, as well as the legal valuation in company code currency is defined.
The following settings are made in the company code:
The corporate valuation and the profit center valuation are managed in the second and third ledgers, which you have to create yourself. The valuation category used is stored in the ledger master data. You need to enter the relevant currencies in the ledger master record.
You post complete values to each ledger, not delta values. This presentation has the advantage that the parallel valuation methods can be managed in logically and physically separate ledgers. This enables a simple authorization control when accessing the datasets of the parallel valuation methods.
Different valuations can also be stored in the Special Purpose ledgers, just as in the general ledger.
In each ledger master record, you can define whether the ledger manages a legal valuation, a group valuation, or a profit center valuation.

How can we settle price diff. in profit center valuation to COGS acc?

Dear All,
We have activated multiple valuations/transfer prices.
We do perform cross company code material sale. We have assigned each profit center at company code level.
We have set transfer price variant in t.code 8kez and have customized accounts in Controlling-Profit Center Accounting-Transfer Prices-Settings for Internal Goods Movements -Define Account Determination for Internal Goods Movements.
We had got posting logic described in http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_05/helpdata/en/eb/13811243c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Now after actual costing run price differences in profit center valuation were not transferred to next level as we expected.
They have stayed as not distributed at sender (company code) profit center level.
How can we distribute price differences in profit center valuation to COGS account of sender profit center defined due to
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_05/helpdata/en/eb/13811243c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm?
With best regards,
Kamila.
Edited by: Kamilana Zhakenova on Dec 25, 2011 10:56 AM

Dear Gurus,
There is an addition to post above.
Transfer price was defined in SD module in Sales and Distribution-Basic Functions-Pricing-Pricing Control-Define Condition Types.
Now it is taken during cross company code sale from scheduling agreement and invoice.
(Please, do not take into account that we have customized transfer prices in 8kez)
But the issue is price differences in profit center valuation settlement.
They do settle to the next level for receiver company code like in group valuation.
We need to settle them to COGS account at company code sender side.
How we can do that?
With best regards,
Kamila.
Edited by: Kamilana Zhakenova on Dec 26, 2011 11:37 AM

Profit Center valuation without mateiral ledger activation in the ECC 6 ver

Dear Experts,
I would like to know whether it is necessary to activate material ledger in ECC 6 to derive profit center valuation by transfer pricing and the relavance of the new gl related to the profit center valuation.
Best Regards
Surya

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Hi,
I have a question, i hope you can help!
Is it possible to have multiple profit centres on a material master? or do you have to extend the material master to another plant first?
Many thanks
Mark.
Edited by: Frankie Summerbell on Jan 26, 2011 5:32 PM

Is it possible to have multiple profit centres on a material master?
No it is not possible to have multiple Profit center for a single material master, only one can be maintained either of 3 views
A. Costing 1
B. Sales
c. Plant/storage location
or do you have to extend the material master to another plant first?
You can extend Material master to another plant and their you can add new profit center, if the profitability is at Plant level.Which is standard and widely used in business.

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Not sure what is the need of cost center on material master when you want to implement Plant maintenance module. Do you have any specific requirement for this?
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