Profit segment value field

hi,
may i know a profit or profitability segment is only a set of characteristic or set of characteristic *** value?
why the profit segment example below without value field? value field like price difference, cost, freight, etc.
E.g. Cocd 1010, customer 0001, product ABC, division a1 is a profit segment whereas CoCd 1010, customer 0002, product ABC, division a1 is another profit segment.
thanks

Hi,
I think you got my question incorrect.
What I am asking is whether profit segment is referring to characteristic only or combination of characteristic and value.
In the example below, I can see only characteristic but no value like freight, cost, etc as part of the profit segment.
So I would like to know profit segment is only characteristic?
E.g. Cocd 1010, customer 0001, product ABC, division a1 is a profit segment whereas CoCd 1010, customer 0002, product ABC, division a1 is another profit segment.
thanks

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