Profitability segment No in Sales Order

Hi All,
While I am creating Sales order the following incomplete data error occurs;
Missing data:Profitability segment No
Message No:VU019
Diagnosis
The system checked the document for completion and found some missing data.
You cannot continous the process,
Pls anyone aware of this issue.
Likely the setting will be missing in CO-PA area configuration.
Thanks,
Thiru

HI,
Case 1: if you do not have the profitability segment in the incompletion procedure of the item category (transaction OVA2), it will be checked nevertheless if the profitability segment is required from a business point of view (for example, if the account-based profitability analysis is active in transaction KEKE, the incoming sales orders for the controlling area is active in transaction KEKF, etc...). When the profitability segment is required from a business point of view, it is checked in a "hard-coded" incompletion procedure and that´s why the order may be incomplete even if the profitability segment is not maintained in the incompletion procedure. If it is not required from a business point of view, this "hard-coded" incompletion procedure will be set as complete.
Case 2: if you explicitly have the profitability segment in the incompletion procedure of the item category (OVA2), the profitability
segment will be checked no matter if it is required from a business point of view or not.
Please read note 114520 which describes this standard behaviour. This note also describes the system behaviour if the profitability segment has been included explicitly in the incompletion procedure (our case 2) in point 2. In this case, the solution would be to remove the field VBAP-PAOBJNR from the incompletion procedure (providing that the profitability segment is not required from a business point of view).
regards
Waman

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