Profitability Segment
Hi Gurus,
The company I work for needs to affect a Profitability Segment during PGI in transaction VL02N. I need to know how to copy the this information from the sales order to the delivery. I have changed the copy control for the combination Delivery / Sales Order in the item level to 103-CO Acct Assign. Item, but it didn't work.
Does anyone has some clues?
Thanks in advanced
-Italo
-Italo
hi,
i think you have to code a little in VOFM, for there seems to be no standard rountines for this.
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Hi,
We have a scenario wherein we create shipment cost documents against delivery. As a result of shipments fully transferred, a PO for freight vendor is automatically created and a service entry sheet confirmation happens. As a result of service entry sheet confirmation, we have Financial accounting, Controlling and profitability analysis documents created. We have a requirement wherein we need to have the characteristic “sales order number (KAUFN)” populated in the profitability analysis document created as a result of service entry sheet confirmation.
Could someone please advice how could this be attained in COPA. Thanks for your help in advance.
Regards,
SandeepHi Ajay,
Thank you for the quick update.
The document is updated to COPA through OKB9 settings. The profitability segment is updated with fields like customer, product, company code, plant, sales area data, profit center, etc; however the sales order number is missing.
Could you please elaborate further how could FI substitution be implemented to call for the FM COPA_PROFITABILITY_SEGMENT through user exit? Are you recommending the substitution through GGB1? What could be the possible validation to call for the user exit to be implemented?
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Hi Gurus,
while creating a Sales order, I am getting the Below Error;
"Error while the Operating Concern being determined"
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Its Urgent..
Can anybody suggest....
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BKTHi Bani,
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Hi,
I am configuring a scenario in which a debit memo request and a corresponding debit memo will be created. Users want to put in a WBS element at the line item level of the debit memo request (which is fine). Business gave me a GL account in which the profitability segment is a required entry. Now, when I try to release the invoice to accounting, I get an error saying "Field Prof.Segmt is a required field for G/L account" (Msg Number F5808). I know that by changing the field status group on the GL account, i can make it post, but that is not the point. I want to know
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Please let me know if you need more information.
Your help is most appreciated.
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In KEPM error msg ' not all profitability segment can be processed'
Hi
PL HELP ME WITH THE FOLLOWING ERROR, when doing 'enter planning' in KEPM.
Message no. KG803
Diagnosis
You cannot maintain all of the profitability segments in the current transaction. This could be due to the following:
1. Errors occurred when characteristic values were derived for the profitability segments.
If this is the case, you can display the error messages under the menu option "Extras -> Error logs -> Derivation".
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Diagnosis
The characteristic "PRCTR" ("Profit Center") should be posted to Profitability Analysis (CO-PA). When the system checked the entries, it was established that the transferred characteristic value (" 1000 YB999") is not valid in CO-PA.
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I would kindly ask you to check transaction OKEQN with your relevant planning version you are using in KEPM and where the above error occurs.
The system checks within derivation (where the error comes from) if the characteristic value is valid for a specific date set within the version (thus trans. OKEQN). If you have PRCTR '1000 102C511' not valid for the date set in the version within OKEQN, then this error message is justified, as the system realises that the PRCTR was not valid by that time.
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Error in Derivation and Profitability Segment
Hello Gurus,
I am two issues, which isnt allowing me to create a sales order in IDES.
I am referencing a quotation when i want to create the sales order. But i got a warning message 'error in derivation rule' and the log text has
Error occurred in derivation rule. See long text
Message no. K/ 111
CO-PA Characteristic Derivation
Diagnosis
Step 0006 Country Ship-to > Intern.Reg
No entry in a derivation rule was found for the specified source field
The derivation rule was set up so that an error message appears when
this happens.
The required derivation rule entry would need the following source
fields:
Country Ship-to
I proceeded and the sales order couldnt save. An incompletion log pointing towards the profitability segment was generated. I have put the profit center, yet i have this issue.
Kindly help resolve it.
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This issue is realted to the COPA Issue.
Please Try by giving the Profit Center at sales order Header by giving the Derivation rule and most important thing here is we have to mention the country of ship to here.
Please Reward IF Really Helpful,
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Sateesh.Kandula -
Problem with profitability segment derivation while posting sales order
Hello,
We have the issue of profitability segment being not derived when the sales order is changed using BAPI 'BAPI_SALESORDER_CHANGE'. Subsequent to calling this BAPI we execute a BDC - to derive the profitability segment - which runs well in the foreground but fails in the background. Immediate help in this regards would be of immense help.
I have searched the forum but could not locate anything useful. There is this thread (Re: BDC for profitability segment VA02 (sales order)) citing the same problem but without answers.
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Indu ShekarProbability Segment is maintained but Profitability Segment is still grayed out.
The only way i was able to move things to COPA was to do a project Settlement from
WBS element to Profitability Segment (PSA).
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Incompletion log Profitability Segment at item level in the Sales Order
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We recently activated the "Sales Order value flow to COPA". When we create the Sales Orders the Profitability segment for the item is getting picked up automatically and have no issue in saving the Sales Order.
But when we edit the Sales Order and then try to save it, Sales Order has incompletion log which is leading to Profitability segment in the item level.
When I click the little box in Sales Order Item > Account Assignment tab> Profitability Segment forward arrow--> "continue" or "derivation" in the populated screen, then the Forward arrow in the profitability segment is deriving the characteristics, then system lets us to save the Sales order with out any incompletion log.
I checked the OSS notes 114520, in this OSS note, my sitiuation is exactly first point but could not get any clue how to resolve automatically.
Why it is happening only when we edit the Sales Order? How to update bulk of Sales Order automatically?
Any inputs?
Thank you.Hi
Since you have activated the Sales order flow to COPA, any change in the sales order triggers a Prof Segment redetermination.... Thats why you are able to save it once you redetermine the Prof Segment....
Ideally, if no Chars like Plant/Org Elements/etc are changed - It need not trigger the Prof Segment redetermination...
Refer Note 729381 - When is a profitability segment supposed to be determined?.... With ref to this note, raise an OSS msg to SAP and check if it is possible to avoid the redetermination of PSG as long as none of the relevant chars are changed in the sales order....
There is a similar issue in MTO where by, even if you change the Header text of sales order, it triggers the Sales order cost estimate.... SAP provided a note to stop this... Note 1548608 & 1260868.... Your case is similar to this.... Raise an OSS to SAP and ask them if they can provide such a note for your case.... I feel, it should be possible for SAP to give this!
br, Ajay M -
Standard Report on Profitability Segment in SAP
I need standard report based on profitability segment in SAP or any report in SAP having information related to profitability segment. Any thread is welcome.
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Difference between New G/L Segment and Profitability Segment
Dear friends,
Can somebody explain what is the difference between New G/L segment and Profitability segment.
Thanks, PrakashHi,
Segment in New G/L is puerly for external reporting purpose.A segment is a sub area of a company for which has separate financial data and which has expenses and losses.For this segment we need virtually complete balance sheet for external reporting purpose.
Profitability segment is for analysis of profit within the organisation.A Profitability segment is a combination of different characteristic for which we want to analyse sales revenue and cost.These characteristic can be any thing for example customer, product, sales organisation etc.
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Dear Experts
We are running an MTO(make to order) scenario!
First we create an contract in the system!Then we create sales order
with reference to this contract!
And when the sales order is sent to the planning department! They use
TCODE:CO08 create production order with reference to the sales order!
But we get an error message as follows:
Account assignment cannot be carried out because of different origin no.
Message no. V1134
Diagnosis
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Therefore, the settlement and possibly inventory management are carried out using the number of the
preceding document.
ut when I entered the the contract in Co08 and then I am able to create
the production order.
And when I back to see the detail in the sales order ,I find there is no
value in the account assignment to the profitability segment!!
Why the sales order have no profitability segment??*
Why we can not create production order with reference to sales order??
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Dear Edurado,
My requirement is in the sales order account assignment tab there is Profitability segment which is done by CO PA , the same PA segment must be automatically flow to Purchase order while creating the Po with ref to a sales order. Profitabilty segment is flowing but the fields like customer , Material is not flowing ,user must have to enter manully which he does not want.... i want all the field is Profilabbility segemnet of SO must be flow to PO while doing Po with ref to SO.
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AbhiHi,
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Trust this helps much!
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Have anyone used INVOIC01 (EDI vendor) Idoc type to post to a Profitability segment in a InterCompany sales scenario? If yes, could someone guide me how to achieve this? I see that OBCC transaction has Profitability segment field, but I am not sure how to use it.
Any ideas?
Thanks for your time.Thanks Waman for the SAP notes.
In fact, I have looked at those notes, already. We cannot change to INVOIC02 Idoc type.
I wonder, why SAP does not offer the functionality to update Profitability segment on the EDI Vendor posting. Transaction OBCC has Profitability segment, but giving a fixed PSEG will not meet any business requirement! EDI enhancement FEDI0001 has only EDI-FIELDS and not the IDoc segment details. There is nothing much one can do with just the EDI-FIELDS.
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How to make profitability segment pushbutton visible in FB50 transaction
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I want to make profitability segment pushbutton visible in FB50 transaction. I tried to change a transaction variant which is assigned for this transaction code. It was a user created Z transaction variant and i unchecked the invisible checkbox in SHD0 transaction and saved it.But still in FB50 i am unable to see it. Can anyone tell me why it is still invisible though i unchecked the invisible checkbox . Do i need to reassign the transaction variant again to FB50. I didnt do it because it is already assigned and i had just modified.Hi,
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Required a customer field(located in the profitability segment box) as mand
our client is requested that the customer field (located in the Profitability Segment box) be a mandatory field for GL accounts which are getting posted directly from FI. This field is needed so that proper reporting can be generated for bad debt and product liability claims. Currently this field is not a mandatory when making journal entries, so there were some postings happened with out customer field. Due to this we are unable to extract exact values in CO-PA reports . Please can some one help me on this and explain the process and settings for this??
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
VenkatHi Eli,
I have posted note to SAP and i got the below reply from them.
Get this functionality you should change
the coding of form DERIVE_CRITERIA_EXTENDED from include RKEVRK2L after
uninstallation of note 115500(in case you have installed) like this:
Im Dialogfall (Kontierungspopup) Verprobung ob für Feld
Mußeingabe erforderlich (Merkmalsgruppe!)
(nicht f. Faktura, da dort keine Fehlermeldung moeglich)
if ( xt_criteria-field is initial
BEGIN OF DELETION *****
and xt_criteria-status eq '2'
and not is_status_flags-dialog is initial ) .
perform send_message using 'KE' 'E' '494'
END OF DELETION *****
BEGIN OF INSERTION *****
and xt_criteria-status eq '2' ) .
data: l_mtyp type c.
if not IS_STATUS_FLAGS-DIALOG is initial.
l_mtyp = 'E'.
else.
l_mtyp = 'W'.
endif.
perform send_message using 'KE' l_mtyp '494'
END OF INSERTION *****
xt_criteria-fieldname
is_cobl-vorgn
i_char_group
endif.
Afterwards you have to run function module RKE_GENERATE_INTERFACE_ACT
for your operating concern to update the generated program RK2LXXXX.
Thanks & Regards,
Venkat -
Product Hierarchy in the t-code F-02 - Profitability Segment section.
Dear All,
I am trying to control the input of the Product Hierarchy in the t-code F-02 - Profitability Segment section. May i know how i can do that? Currently i am using field exits but it is not working in this program.
Please help.
thank youHi Jasmina,
When you post with PK 31 you create you post other line with PK 40.
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In the derivation rule from the 40 you don't have the vendor number (this is in the 31 line).
Perhaps it is possible with a user exit in CO-PA.
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